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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Koepke View Post
    So far all of the societies that have been able to curb the spread of corvid-19 did it by testing the population and keeping those infected apart from the rest of the population.

    Maybe the problem here is our tests are so beautiful, they are being kept on display instead of in the hands of medical professionals.

    The second part of the problem is the time between first learning of covid-19 and responding was squandered with rhetoric instead of action.

    This will not sort itself out. Once the rate of new infections drop to zero and people are no longer contagious, life can get back to normal. Hopefully before the virus cycles through the southern hemisphere a vaccine will be developed to keep us from having a recurrence next fall.
    A hard lockdown, the testier the better, for as long as it takes, is the answer (from the best expert advice that I have found.) And the harder it gets, the shorter it will be.

    I am _amazed_ by the number of cars still on the road, heard off in the distance, even now. We're supposed to be under shelter-in-place restrictions.
    Last edited by Doug Dawson; 03-27-2020 at 4:00 PM.

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Doug Dawson View Post
    I am _amazed_ by the number of cars still on the road, heard off in the distance, even now. We're supposed to be under shelter-in-place restrictions.
    I would only point out that there are some people (I am not one of them) that still have to work, that if they do not work they may not have food for themselves and family. They do not others to help them out or the local resources are so taxed they are of little help.

    There are those who don't care amd will never care about their actions and the consequences to others.

    There are plenty of people that just do not trust or believe the government.

    These things, and many others, explain the people out on the roads.

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    Traffic on the roads is way down locally. But, the list of "essential" businesses is extensive. And, I think you would be very surprised at what is involved in the supply chain to keep hospitals and grocery stores up and going. There are a lot of links in those supply chains.

    For example, my wife works for a decent-sized, regional electrical supply company. Essential? Much of the business probably isn't. But they do supply various repair parts to hospitals and factories. Then you need electricians to install them. Electricians need to get to work, but their vans break down. They need mechanics. Mechanics need auto parts. Auto parts stores need workers. And factories to make the parts. And warehouses to distribute them via truck drivers, and on and on...you get the picture. We've been a JIT global economy for many years now, so all those links need to be there because we don't have reserves of inventory in many durable good sectors.
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    I see a lot of negative rhetoric about non-essential businesses still going just to keep making profit. Doesn’t make it right, but many small business owners are scared to death they will loose their business that they put their life savings into and which employs many folks that are now friends. They feel a responsibility to keep them employed. Not about profit, it is about survival.
    NOW you tell me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole Anderson View Post
    I see a lot of negative rhetoric about non-essential businesses still going just to keep making profit. Doesn’t make it right, but many small business owners are scared to death they will loose their business that they put their life savings into and which employs many folks that are now friends. They feel a responsibility to keep them employed. Not about profit, it is about survival.
    Very true. But "survival" has more than one meaning here...that's the conundrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Dawson View Post
    A hard lockdown, the testier the better, for as long as it takes, is the answer (from the best expert advice that I have found.) And the harder it gets, the shorter it will be.

    I am _amazed_ by the number of cars still on the road, heard off in the distance, even now. We're supposed to be under shelter-in-place restrictions.
    Hi Doug, where I live gasoline is around 0.70/l down from about 1.20/l. The rods are almost empty.

    I’m at the end of week 2 of work from home, my company will probably extend this for another few weeks.

    My daughter is a nurse, when you wind up putting people on a ventilator, they need to be sedated and in ICU, that’s the issue, tying up enormous amounts of healthcare resources.

    We probably need to stay locked down for months.....Rod
    Last edited by Jim Becker; 03-28-2020 at 10:03 AM. Reason: fixed quote tagging

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Dawson View Post

    I am _amazed_ by the number of cars still on the road, heard off in the distance, even now. We're supposed to be under shelter-in-place restrictions.
    Well, most days you will see me on the road. I take my dog to an out of the way place and walk her for an hour or two. We only see a couple people, and stay 10' away from them. You got a problem with that?

    OP... the only way we are getting back to normal in a few months is if it turns out to be strongly seasonal, or a great treatment turns up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade Lippman View Post
    Well, most days you will see me on the road. I take my dog to an out of the way place and walk her for an hour or two. We only see a couple people, and stay 10' away from them. You got a problem with that?
    Nope. Is this a Subaru commercial? :^)

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