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  1. #16
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    I've seen smoke from using dull blades, band or circular. So that could be a factor, as well as not having the guides set properly and damaging the teeth.

    I never saw a shower of sparks, and the particles are so tiny I really don't think they're still going to be glowing by the time they get down into the cabinet. It's not as if you're using an angle grinder up there. Of course, I never watched under the table with the door open to see what the lower guide was doing ... that might require more than a few 'toddies' for even me to be that stupid.

    And I watched the Felder install video. I didn't realize they replace everything. No wonder they're $250 a set. I was going to design and build my own someday.

  2. #17
    I bought an 40+ year old Agazzani basket case that was missing the lower guide set. The price of a replacement set was a lot more than the Laguna ceramics, and I don’t love Euro guides anyway. I have had those ceramic guides now for about 20 hours of use and would buy them again.

    If you had a milling machine and a couple of chunks of aluminium it would be a simple job to make the holders.

  3. #18
    I have a set of Laguna ceramic guides for sale in the classified if anyone is interested.

    John H

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    Quote Originally Posted by john hejmanowski View Post
    I have a set of Laguna ceramic guides for sale in the classified if anyone is interested.

    John H
    John, your ad is the reason for the thread! I visited a pals shop the other who told me he had one of the ceramics pop out. He simply glued it back on and didn’t even bother contacting Laguna. But after talking to him I wondered if this was a common occurrence.

    I would like to buy your guides but I could get by if I just bought a replacement thrust bearing from space age ceramics. That would certainly not be the same but sometimes needs and wants are not equal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Bartley View Post
    I’ve looked at ceramic guides for awhile now and had a question for those who have experience with the Lagunas: have any of the ceramic pieces come out?

    I’ve now heard at least two tales of a ceramics coming out of the holder which makes me wonder if these are a good option. I can only imagine the potential trouble this could cause; ruined blade etc. or worse a ruined workpiece.

    My saw (Agazzani) has euro guides and I need to replace the upper thrust bearing.

    Given Lagunas reputation for customer service I would imagine you’re on your own to fix it.
    Jeff,

    I have had my Laguna 14BX for a number of years and know others who also have ceramic guides. I have yet to hear of one fall out, only wear out. So that is interesting that you heard of two cases of them falling out. With my luck, this will happen to me tomorrow since I have to resaw something for a small project.

    Anyway the guides are easily obtained from Laguna's web page. https://www.shop.lagunatools.com/ban...ceramic-guides. I ordered another part for my bandsaw from their site and it was shipped right out. My son turned on the saw before I tensioned the blade and it cut the dust guard thing to pieces.

    I do want to correct a statement however about Laguna's reputation for customer service. I have 3 Laguna machines, a bandsaw, dust collector and a jointer. I have been in contact with Laguna's tech/customer support a few times with questions (pre and post sales) and had one failure on the contactor or circuit board on my dust collector. I have always had a response either before I got off the phone or within an hour or so. The dust collector took a day or so due to resolve due to some back and forth debugging, but once the problem was isolated to the contactor, which was out of stock, the entire control box assembly was sent to me to correct the issue. With Laguna's big push into the market, they have really stepped up their game. If they still had crappy customer service, you most likely wouldn't see a fair majority of their tools on display at the wood working stores we tend to visit and they sure wouldn't be able to sell there automated CNC smart-shop machines with price tags between $41K-235K. Jeez now I sound like a Laguna salesperson.
    Distraction could lead to dismemberment!

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    I have had my LT18 since 2001, and had one of the side guides come loose once. A call to Laguna put me in touch with one of their techs who suggested using gel super glue to put it back in place.
    Did that and it has held tight since 2012 or there about. The saw came with the original Euro guides and made the upgrades.

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    It’s great to hear positive experiences with customer service; all too often we only hear the negative!

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    I had a blade break on my 14-12 and it broke off about 1/3 of one of the upper ceramic side guides. Found a seller of the ceramics on line and replaced it. I do find it difficult to get the knobs tight enough to keep the guides from loosening over time, especially on the lower guides where there isn't much room to work.

  9. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Bartley View Post
    It’s great to hear positive experiences with customer service; all too often we only hear the negative!
    I thought that was what the internet was for

  10. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Saffold View Post
    I had a blade break on my 14-12 and it broke off about 1/3 of one of the upper ceramic side guides. Found a seller of the ceramics on line and replaced it. I do find it difficult to get the knobs tight enough to keep the guides from loosening over time, especially on the lower guides where there isn't much room to work.
    I need to take a closer look at the space on the lower guides on mine, but I was considering buying some of the ratcheting lever handles with threaded rod on them to put in place of the existing knobs. There are similar ones elsewhere on the saw, like the table angle fasteners and the upper guide depth shaft fastener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Saffold View Post
    I had a blade break on my 14-12 and it broke off about 1/3 of one of the upper ceramic side guides. Found a seller of the ceramics on line and replaced it. I do find it difficult to get the knobs tight enough to keep the guides from loosening over time, especially on the lower guides where there isn't much room to work.
    on my 14BX, I just remove the table - it takes just a few minutes and I know the guide setup is much better on the bottom of the table.
    Distraction could lead to dismemberment!

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