The Hall of the Mountain King

[Thomas Wilson]

This is the equivalent of a Martin T75 restoration if someone else was doing it instead of me.


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I second you purchase Marks T17. Add a Snowflake to the mix and man o man..

Hey Patrick,

I looked at your restoration. That is some impressive work. It is actually moving along very fast considering all the other work you do.

I looked at Mark Hennebury’s classified ad. That is some saw. I have a Unisaw with Unifence that has been a member of the family since 1988. It is more my speed. I used to have a sock stuffed with cash in my sock drawer where I was saving up for a SawStop. I might still go that route.

is a Snowflake a big ol’ bandsaw?

Thomas

[Jim Becker]

is a Snowflake a big ol’ bandsaw?

Yup...so-named because of what the (exposed) wheels look like...from back in the time when industrial machinery not only was major-beefy and functional, but also made to be pleasing to the eye.

[Patrick Walsh]

Thanks very much it quite a compliment.

I was saying anything just pointing it out if it was your speed. Or confirming that I agree with the poster about that suggested the same.

One of the things I have going on right now is a property line dispute with a developer that just finished building a townhouse next to me.

I’m done and it’s decided I’m moving next spring. Maybe just maybe someday if I play my cards right I can have a shop as perfect as what you are doing.
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Hey Patrick,

I looked at your restoration. That is some impressive work. It is actually moving along very fast considering all the other work you do.

I looked at Mark Hennebury’s classified ad. That is some saw. I have a Unisaw with Unifence that has been a member of the family since 1988. It is more my speed. I used to have a sock stuffed with cash in my sock drawer where I was saving up for a SawStop. I might still go that route.

is a Snowflake a big ol’ bandsaw?

Thomas

[Thomas Wilson]

I made a model to test the color scheme. What do yo think?
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[Patrick Walsh]

It’s ok but you can do better..

Imop only..

[Mel Fulks]

I would not break up that nice tall look. Either color , plus one trim color

[Tom M King]

You asked for opinions, so I'm going to do like my Mama taught me.

[Jon Snider]

I would not break up that nice tall look. Either color , plus one trim color

+1. Your shop is gorgeous, the timber framing and outdoor setting seems to me to call for more natural, simple colors, without the cross trim piece. My preference is slightly darker trim than wall colors but clearly this is all like asking what flavor of ice cream is best. Choose what makes you happy.

[John K Jordan]

I'm a fan of muted earth tones. One way to get ideas is to find photos on the internet of buildings in somewhat similar environments.

[Jim Becker]

The specific color is up to you because it's very subjective. "My" personal preferences are similar to what John mentions. I like a structure to "integrate" with its surroundings so I would likely do a single shade for the structure with a mildly contrasting trim color. If I wanted to put a highlight on the gable end, I'd put something artistic up there centered while leaving the background the same as the lower level. But that's me...and as I noted, it's a subjective thing.

[Thomas Wilson]

Thanks all for the comments. I made the model to test the colors because I was not sure if it was too much red. I wanted something bold but it is hard to tell from just paint samples. These colors are the ones suggested by the designer at the paint store. I asked for mossy green, brick red, and tan. This is what she suggested. I think her green choice is more gray than mossy. She said she did not want the color scheme to look too Christmasy. I like the bold russet red but it might be a little too much in real life. If you want to look up the colors, they are from Benjamin Moore and the main color is Gloucester Sage, accent color is Earthly Russet, and the trim color is Bleeker Beige.


My model is also not a perfect model of the color balance because it does not show the stone veneer, garage door and people door below the main shop level. Also, the areas of main color, accent color and trim are not proportional in size to the actual building. If the basement doors were russet, that might shift the color scheme from bold to gaudy. The good news is that I am not buying paint anytime soon. I have time to experiment and maybe walk it back a little. One other thing, this gable end has the most area of the accent color. The front will just have the double front door with the russet The other gable end has a stone chimney cutting through the gable section to reduce the russet and no doors.

An interesting side note, my sister-in-law is building a timber frame barn. I really like her artistic sense and she independently picked colors very similar to mine. She did not paint as much of her building red as I did in this model.

Here is a JamesHardie design scheme from their gallery that I used for inspiration. I will have the same style of siding, shingles, and stone. I even plan to have the roof shingle ledger dividing the main level from the gable. I just want to change the main color from dark tan to mossy green to be more woodsy.
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Here is a color design illustration I put together with Benjamin Moore's color designer using my colors applied to one of their stock photos. It shows some ways I might reduce the amount of the accent color by dividing the areas differently. Note the garage doors in their design are red. It is bold but not overpowering.
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[Tom M King]

Must be some difference in the way it shows on my monitor. I'm not seeing a hint of green in any of that. One thing I always consider, when trying to decide on colors, is that it has to be something that I'm sure I'll never get tired of looking at.

[Phil Mueller]

It didn’t quite work for me in your model, but I like how it looks in the second photo. I think that would look great in your wooded setting.

[Thomas Wilson]

Not much happening this week. The carpentry crew worked one day. The OSB and paper are on the roof and OSB and Tyvek on the gable ends and porch wall. The carpentry crew have been working on my job continuously since May 28. They left to get back to a job they were working on before my timber frame arrived. Their goal was to get the timber frame protected from the weather. Now, I have to be patient.

HVAC, plumber, and electrician are starting next week. I have ordered cypress T&G for the porch floor and the same spruce 2x6 T&G as the shop ceiling for the ceiling of the porch. For those who wish that the shop did not have walls in this setting, I am with you. There will be a screened porch.

I am working on a modification floor plan to add a half bath in the loft. It is tight but doable. It will be 50"x60" tucked into corner of the gable end next to the knee wall. Minimum height for a bathroom under a sloped roof is 6'8 in front of each bathroom fixture. With the knee wall at 42" and a 12:12 pitch this will just meet. The tank of the commode will be against the 42" knee wall.

I went to get an oak beam to from the timber framer to use for the support post in the center of the basement room under the shop.

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[Jon Snider]

Actually seems like a lot. Looking good Thomas.