I have both. I prefer the LN (thin plate) by far - the Veritas arrives with a less aggressive rake, which makes it easier to use for a beginner. Of course that can be changed. The LN looks a lot better and the thin plate saws cut much faster and cleaner. In fact I prefer my LN carcass saw to my Bad Axe tenon saw, just to address the comments about premium saws being much better.
Last edited by Stewie Simpson; 01-29-2019 at 4:06 AM.
I was standing at the Lie Nielsen table at the Williamsburg conference a week and a half ago, when a fellow I did not know asked if I thought a saw was kind of dull. So I tried it out. It did cut slowly like it was dull. I looked at the teeth; it had a lot of rake and was filed crosscut and I told him that was why it cut slowly.
It was a weird saw: fourteen inches long and maybe two inches wide with small teeth. I know from reading this thread that this is what they call a "carcass saw". Usually 14 inch saws have somewhat larger teeth, a plate over two inches and are called sash saws.
A more traditional carcase saw is about eleven inches long and filed rip. The heavy back on the Lie Nielsen saw accented the fact that it was over long. I think it was slower cutting than my eight inch dovetail saw.
Most of the Home Depot kind of saws these days are high temper Japanese pattern- hard to sharpen and cheap to replace. When I tell someone with a western saw that I can sharpen it, they usually look amazed. They also are amazed when I discuss how they use the saw so I can tune it for them. It’s quickly becoming a lost skill.
I charge $10, but for now I am not looking to do mail order sharpening. I’m pretty busy with local chef knives and planer knives. $25 is high to me unless it includes shipping.
Come on guys, everyone knows we have to have one of each.
I have 3 veritas saws and they were a good starter kit. The LN saws look pretty nice and if I had no saw today and was buying one I might go that route. It would not surprise me if they were worth the extra $ but it would surprise me if it was worth it to upgrade from a veritas. That said eventually a Bad Axe will likely find its way into my shop, very likely a Bayonet with the hybrid filing.
After I placed my order I received an email that the carcass saw was out of stock and wouldn't be available for a week or two.
Then, two days later I had a shipping confirmation. I doubt they rushed production for me.
Anyway, the saw arrived today and I quite like it. It's prettier in person than in the photos.
I figured I needed a shiny new shop appliance to use with my new toy, so made a bench hook.
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Both of what? The link came up with a page of a few hundred saws:
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Over time you may see my reason for making bench hooks in pairs.I figured I needed a shiny new shop appliance to use with my new toy, so made a bench hook.
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It helps to hold and support longer pieces.
jtk
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