Yep, I found the BEST ww book. The title is Sawmill Creek. Well, it may not be a book in the traditional sense, but I've printed out so many threads that it is the size of a book by now, and it even has color pictures. And better yet, I don't just get the opinion of one author, I get the consensus of experienced people all over the world on each topic. Think about it for a minute, how much would you pay for a ww book like THAT !! Reality though is that bandwidth, etc., etc. costs money. You don't get harassed with revenue generating pop-up ads on the Creek, so the bucks have to come from somewhere. May I suggest that as many of us members as possible make a contribution in order to ensure the longevity of Sawmill Creek. Elsewhere on this forum there is a recommendation of just $6.00 per member, I think that's low, but I also think each should only do whatever is comfortable for them, be it $1.00, 5, 10, 25. I'd buy this book any day of the year for that bargain price. Hope this hasn't offended anyone.