Met up with andy hoyt when i was home in canada for vacation, invited him to my boss` house in st. stephen n.b. We traded some wood, got a nice piece of cherry, left him some BERMUDA Cedar, australian cypress and some walnut dowels. He gave me a quick lesson on how to hold my tools relative to the wood, what an incredable difference when i got back to the lathe[1946 delta milwaukee 12 "]. pic 1 shows my very first attempt at turning, an oak malet, 2 3/4" round, 12" long, next to it is birch, it is shorter only because that is when the gouge stopped gouging , right malet i tried a few rings. The pens were fun, 1st pic shows 6 slims in australian cypress, cigar in blue & green burl, pic 3 are bermuda cedar. Thats me and andy at the end, his voice reminds me of a 70`s disk jockey, i can hear him now, gooooooooooood mooooorrrrrning KSMC, here`s one to get you started..........the byrds, turn turn turn