Again, thanks to everyone for their reaponse. I ordered this afternoon. Im gonna go with blo and gf woodturners polish. Simple enough for my son and should produce good results. I may add a drop of ca to the blo if i don't get the desired result. I will have to do the ca myself. Heck, I'll probably end up making more pens then him. It seems to be as addictive as everyone suggests.