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Probably not tomorrow, got other projects ahead of this. Maybe around Christmas time. Thinking this would be a good little bench saw for use with a bench hook. Anyone seen this type saw? Wondering if Mr. Bontz has made one like this? I have a 10 point plate waiting, maybe an Osage tote?
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The cheek of that handle reminds me a tiny little bit of the dovetail and carcass saw handle from Smith's key. That long end in front of the nib is also a bit like those saws.
http://eaiainfo.org/2014/02/05/decoding-smiths-key/
What kind of sawscrews does it have?
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Look like regular saw screws from the back, the front kind of looks like a rivet.
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Man, that could very well be an old one, early 19th century! The very round nose, the long straight in front of the nib, the curious cheek. I think those screws are replacements, maybe the handle was indeed attached with rivets originally.
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And of course it could be much newer, dating saws ain't that easy.
Scrape the rust with some mineral spirits and a razor blade. Maybe you'll find a name.
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Its not mine I just saw it on ebay and figured I could make a copy of it.
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Looks like it's made for cutting early 19th Century PVC pipe.
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It looks, in fact, as if someone has done what you suggest. Overall geometry is similar to Disston's "Patternmaker's saw" and not unlike their "Cabinetmaker's saw." The former had a 7" long plate and the latter a longer one--14" or so IIRC. Here are some close relatives:
disston patternmaker7.5 x 1.5 in..jpgdisston joiner's saw 16 x 2 n one quarter x 20 n a half.jpg
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What is the ppi and does the plate have any taper? The hang looks a little high for a Smith's Key saw. Rather looks like a small table saw to me. Good research project for some one. Interesting angle on the nib. Wouldn't take much to make one and could come in handy in tight spots.Originally Posted by Cody Cantrell
Look like regular saw screws from the back, the front kind of looks like a rivet.
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Ron,
these pics are just from an ebay listing I saw.
I guess no one is really familiar with the form? I like all the insight.
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The form looks like a "Table" saw, although they usually have a longer blade (this one may have been shortened)
The handle on early table saws was a bit more decorative than the somewhat plain one shown, so I'd guess it dates first half 1900s
Should be a good project to copy this style (do some google searching for alternative handle details. Bob Summerfield makes a nice one http://lumberjocks.com/summerfi/blog/46985 )
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Like the proportions! Have to wonder how deep the saw plate was originally, if materially different than the picture. Maybe George Wilson will take a look and opine?
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This thread was just the push I needed to throw me off balance and get me to make one of these saws. I had it in mind for a year of so.
I cut a section out of a very used Disston D-20, belt sanded most of the rust and shallow pits out of it, shaped the back of the heal, and made a handle. The plate is 14" long. The handle is cherry. (Hope it darkens up over time)100_1223.JPG100_1220.JPG100_1224.JPG100_1225.JPG100_1226.JPGAnd a Disston factory version.
Disston joiner's saw full.jpg
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I am very envious of guys like Cody and Jim that just decide to head down to the shop and whack out a new saw. I realize it is probably just another set of particular skills and knowledge specific to the case, but still............. Good going guys. Cody I want to see a photo of the new saw showing the whoopdelooo dip on the back of the saw out towards the nose. That will be the "wow" factor.
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The "whoopdelooo" isn't that hard. Just scribe a line a bit from the top all the way to the nib-to-be. Grind to the line. Then take a triangular file and make a notch just past the nib. Clean it all up with a file.
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