Well I cancelled my order for the Grizz today after another slip in the shipping date: it's December now. I placed a bid on ebay for a 2 HP Delta 16" Variable Speed Wood Lathe 46-755X and won. This seems like a good lathe, pictures looked nice, owner claims to have only used it about 10 times and the price was certainly right. It has all the bells and whistles that the Grizz has only two inches short on the swing and 5 inches short on the spindle. The specs read simular to the Jet 1642. Only bad thing is that I have to drive up to Evansville, IN to pick it up. That's 430 miles from my house in Georgia. I hope I don't regreat this decision.