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    Making an MDF Box

    I have a lot of MDF and I need some shop cabinets. My question is what is the best way to attach MDF to MDF? Most of the posts I've seen will have some saying this way works best followed by someone saying that particular method does not work.

    I just want to put some simple storage cabinets together to hold finishing supplies, misc tools, all the shop junk that ends up on the floor, bench, under the bench, in bedroom closets, in the garage...you know, everything that you can't find because there's no place to put it.

    I'm not concerned about nicks, gouges, scars and generally ugliness. I can always use the cabinets to practice veneering.

    Thanks,
    Burt

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    I prefer glue and biscuits, but screws and glue work very well if if the edge holding the screw doesn't split.
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    Spax, Confirmat? Suggestions?

    Thanks,
    Burt

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    I would butt joint,glue and srew. You could use rabbets and dadoes for joinery, but MDF sawdust is bad stuff. That is why i would butt joint.Pre drill your srew holes

    Paul

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    Confirmat are great screws if you have them lying around. On projects like this i try and use up what i have the most of. Gold diggers and sheet rock screws mostly.

    Paul

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    Woodcraft has HighPoint confirmat screws with bits and drills. They are very close by. Since I have a lot of MDF and want to build a bunch of things I'm willing to put the bucks up, unless there is a better cheaper option.

    I also have a PC jointer with about 10k biscuits (well...seems like it).

    Burt

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    Suggest you slightly countersink all holes before screwing down. Helps prevent puckering at the mating surface. I use a hand countersink tool and Woodcraft has them.

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    I made a few of my shop cabinets out of MDF and I used pockets screws (kreg jig R3 - $39) & glue. It worked very well & no split edges.

    If you use pocket screws though, I will give you a heads up. When putting in the screw, the piece has a tendency to slide out because the MDF has a hard shell and the screw does not penetrate right away. Since the screw does not penetrate right away, the piece will actually lift up slightly and slide out. You can try to pre-drill a starter hole in the piece you are screwing into, but I found it difficult to figure out exactly where to drill the hole. Instead I put my thumb on the outside of the piece and push against it to prevent it from sliding out. It takes a little getting used to, but once you get the hang of it, it works great.

    The pocket screws are the easiest & quickest, but if you are looking for ultimate accuracy, I agree with Fred, use biscuits.

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    I have the Kreg but it fools me often so I don't use it too much. Are biscuits better then screws, or at least, just as good/better?

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    Biscuits

    I've used biscuits in MDF with good success and since you seem to have plenty of them they seem like the way to go. MDF is inexpensive stuff and it doesn't seem to make much sense to spend a lot of money on fasteners for shop type projects in inexpensive material. Just my 2¢.

    Cole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burt Alcantara View Post
    I have the Kreg but it fools me often so I don't use it too much. Are biscuits better then screws, or at least, just as good/better?
    The biscuits don't add much lateral strength, they just help with the alignment. You may want to use both, but since these are just shop cabinets, I agree with Cole, don't spend too much money or time. Screws and glue should be easy & cheap. Plus if you use screws, you won't have to use any clamps. If you only use biscuits & glue, you will need to use clamps until the glue dries.

    What do you mean the Kreg jig fools you? I find the Kreg jig very easy for simple projects. I'm just curious.
    Last edited by Erech Myers; 04-29-2009 at 12:14 PM.

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    I butt joint mine, glue them and use the mdf screws from mcfeely's, I have a kit that came with screws, bit driver and a drill bit that is designed for their screws, works really well.

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    I've been very happy with McFeely's screws and they usually give a good explanation of why each type of design is best for each application. I took this from their site for Confirmat screws: "If you assemble melamine cabinets or work with particle board or Medium Density Fiberboard (MDF), these unique fasteners have been specially designed to make your life easier. The 5mm dia.shoulder beneath the head acts much like a steel dowel pin and locks the shank in position to minimize the possibility of board failure. This creates a remarkably strong and stiff joint that generally does not require glue. Screws require a pilot hole through both pieces of material. Simply clamp the pieces together and drill with a specialized 3-step 7.62mm/5mm/3.5mm drill bit. These 5x40 screws are recommended for use with 1/2" materials and are ideal for constructing drawer boxes. If you are using 3/4" thick material, consider using the 7 x 50mm screws Confirmat Style Connecting screws."

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    Erech,
    When I use the Kreg, I loose alignment and squareness. I've tried clamping angles on to the joint but they still seem to slip or otherwise come out of alignment. I use them for non-important joints where I don't care if they are off.

    I'm aware that the fault is with me and not the Kreg. I think it is a matter of compatibility. In this case I have filed for divorce.

    Burt

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    I use a locking rabbet joint to make MDF boxes.
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