Hi, I hope I'm not opening a can or worms here but this a continuation of the Robert Sobly spindle gouge post that I made with the chuck question. I'm going to return the spindle gouge and get a bowl gouge. Crown, Thompson, and D-way were suggested. Pinnacle is available at my local Woodcraft store. I'm only looking a the Cryo steel versions. They are al priced about the same except for D-way which don't come with a handle. I have my own handles. The Pinnacle is $122 locally (cheaper than Amazon) and I like the feel of it also doesn't involve shipping which adds the overall price of the others. The D-way would be slightly less even with shipping but it doesn't specify the length of the blade. I'm also upgrading my grinding wheels to CBN from Wood Turners Wonders. Went with an 8" X 1" X 180grit on one side and a 8" X 1 1/2" X 600 grit Mega-square on the other side. Jim