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    Trim Router Advice

    I need to fix a mess up... and the easiest way seems to be a pattern bit in a router... but I need to get into a corner (or darn close). So small router, i.e. trim router, comes to mind.

    Searching the vendors on the internet suggests that I will have to spend $100 for a basic unit (PC, DeWalt, Bosch, Ridgid) or up to $200 with accessories. Bosch drops off the list because I haven't found a local dealer. DeWalt loses points because my regular DeWalt router died recently - after having already been rebuilt for the cost of a new unit.

    Since this isn't the last project (or my last screw up), if I am going to have to spend $200, is it worth jumping to $500 for the Festool MFK700? Or will I find a $100-200 unit sufficient?

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    Amazon is always local - as close as your front door. Get the Bosch colt variable speed. Do it right the first time.

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    Bosch Colt

    The Colt is an excellent little router. However, to use Porter Cable pattern guides you will need an adaptor - or you can use Bosch guides; just check into it before hand - so no last minute surprses.

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    Charlie,

    I've been thinking about getting a trim router to augment my Triton router and my Festool OF1400. I looked into the MFK700 and the Bosch Colt.

    If I was going to use a trim router day in and day out, I'd get the MFK700. However, I'm probably going to get a Bosch Colt because of it's flexibility.

    The MFK700 is a great trim router, but I'm not sure if it will get as close to a corner as you'd like to mee your needs.

    I think the Bosch Colt Installers Kit might be the best choice for you because it includes an offset base. (http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-PR20EVSN.../dp/B000EJX202). Here's a review of the Colt that describes the Offset Base in detail: http://www.newwoodworker.com/reviews/bcoltkitrvu.html.

    One downside of the Colt is that some people have reported that it the height adjustment can slip. That's hearsay because I don't own one.

    Regards,

    Dan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Clark View Post

    One downside of the Colt is that some people have reported that it the height adjustment can slip. That's hearsay because I don't own one.

    Regards,

    Dan.
    I have the Colt and really like it. I had the height slip problem until I read the manual (duh) that you need to twist the motor in the base which locks it into the threads of the fine adjust mechanism.

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    Harbor Freight has a good trim router. Probably doesn't cost enough for some folks, but it'll do the job. Here it is.

    I have two of them and reach for them a lot more often than my PC. I've seen them in use in commercial shops also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Arnold View Post
    Harbor Freight has a good trim router. Probably doesn't cost enough for some folks, but it'll do the job. Here it is.
    +1 (10 characters)

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    A while ago I needed to rout close to an inside corner, and I rigged up a "homemade" router using a $10 H.F. die grinder. Since the die grinder has a small diameter you can get very close to a corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Lee View Post
    I have the Colt and really like it. I had the height slip problem until I read the manual (duh) that you need to twist the motor in the base which locks it into the threads of the fine adjust mechanism.

    +1, especially the part about twisting the motor to engage the mechanism. BTW, I learned that trick not from the manual but from this forum. Thanks guys, I was about ready to throw out the Bosch. Now I love it and use it the most of the 7 routers I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Kohn View Post
    +1, especially the part about twisting the motor to engage the mechanism. BTW, I learned that trick not from the manual but from this forum. Thanks guys, I was about ready to throw out the Bosch. Now I love it and use it the most of the 7 routers I have.
    Yep. Glad I read about that issue before I bought my Colt so I didn't go through that frustration. And it's always good that this is explained in posts in which folks recommend the Colt so the new user is clued in from the get go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Kohn View Post
    +1, especially the part about twisting the motor to engage the mechanism. BTW, I learned that trick not from the manual but from this forum. Thanks guys, I was about ready to throw out the Bosch. Now I love it and use it the most of the 7 routers I have.
    was just about to post the same thing . i have a colt and figured that out as well. my helper actually pointed the gear thing out to me, as i was about to toss mine too, heh.

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    Another vote for the COLT but...

    There is some new competition on the block. My one complaint about the Colt is there is no plunge or no easy/cheap way to get one. Trend makes a new trim router called the T-4 for $99 with variable speed and plunge.

    As much I love my Colt, if I had to do it today I would be considering the T4. One drawback is that it is so new I am not sure you will find many folks to ask how it performs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey Torres View Post
    Another vote for the COLT but...

    There is some new competition on the block. My one complaint about the Colt is there is no plunge or no easy/cheap way to get one. Trend makes a new trim router called the T-4 for $99 with variable speed and plunge.

    As much I love my Colt, if I had to do it today I would be considering the T4. One drawback is that it is so new I am not sure you will find many folks to ask how it performs.

    http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPR...FSCcnAodLzwtYQ
    That Trend trimmer looks A LOT like a Freud that I bought a few years back. The standard base on that trimmer is NOT square and never locks effectively without a pliers, the plunge base is sloppier than a ____ in a ______. This thing makes a racket like a weasel and a mongoose in a hamster wheel with a bunch of marbles. There is a reason it is no longer sold by Freud, who is Trend? Where is that bad tools thread?

    I bought a Colt a couple months back and it's LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Freud (Trend?) as far as build quality, design, engineering and ergonomics. I'll probably buy a couple more Colts to replace the other trimmers in the shop that are inferior. Haven't used the offset base yet, but it looks good, and I haven't heard anything bad about it, which you would think you would with all the glowing reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Groenke View Post
    That Trend trimmer looks A LOT like a Freud that I bought a few years back. The standard base on that trimmer is NOT square and never locks effectively without a pliers, the plunge base is sloppier than a ____ in a ______. This thing makes a racket like a weasel and a mongoose in a hamster wheel with a bunch of marbles. There is a reason it is no longer sold by Freud, who is Trend? Where is that bad tools thread?

    I bought a Colt a couple months back and it's LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Freud (Trend?) as far as build quality, design, engineering and ergonomics. I'll probably buy a couple more Colts to replace the other trimmers in the shop that are inferior. Haven't used the offset base yet, but it looks good, and I haven't heard anything bad about it, which you would think you would with all the glowing reports.

    -kg
    Kevin,
    I am not knocking the Colt. I bought a reconditioned unit from CPO Bosch and I love that thing. Very interesting picture. You are right, it looks like the same router.
    I just saw the first advertisement in a WW magazine recently. Trend (I think) is the same company that makes those high quality face shields for turners/WWs. Making a face shield and a router may be a bit like saying “I am a woodworker but working on your car should be too much of a problem”.
    I will be interested to see the reviews that will inevitably start rolling in once folks realize they are touting to have the only trim router with a standard plunge base. As I have said I wish there was one available from Bosch. There is one retro out there but it costs as much a the router itself!
    If this T4 is a POS, someone will write more about it soon.

    Anyone Creekers out there have one yet???
    Last edited by Dewey Torres; 11-14-2008 at 1:42 AM.
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    Hello Charlie,

    Unfortunately, I can't give you any advice on the Festool, but have some experience with some other trim routers. I had a Bosch Colt, and so did another trim carpenter I know, which had problems with the depth adjustment staying put. Cost my buddy quite a bit because it slipped during a critical cut and ruined his job. I favor the Bosch's ergonomics and controls, just haven't had one that locked down well. Others swear by them, though. The porter cable is a good little router for the money, maybe a bit clunky, but have never had any problems with it.

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