Dewalt Track saw cost

[Mike Heidrick]

Will do. Arrives Friday.

[Aaron Beaver]

Will do. Arrives Friday.

Can't wait for you to review it, I have been looking at it for a long time but like others I was hoping it would be lower cost than Festool. If not I would have to wait to see what kind of track record its gonna have.

[Dave Falkenstein]

Why buy an imitation Festool when you can get a real Festool for about the same cost? I have been reading the Dewalt and Makita would be priced close to Festool for some time, based on the pricing in the markets where they already introduced these copycat saws.

[Jeffrey Makiel]

Perhaps DeWalt is capitalizing on the old saying: "you get what you pay for". It's a common justification for higher end tool buyers. Therefore, the high price will help invoke a sense of quality. Then, once quality is established thru actual use, DeWalt goes in for the kill and lowers the price.

Just a prediction.

-Jeff

[Dino Makropoulos]

Why buy an imitation Festool when you can get a real Festool for about the same cost? I have been reading the Dewalt and Makita would be priced close to Festool for some time, based on the pricing in the markets where they already introduced these copycat saws.

Dave,
The Makita is a copycat.
The Dewalt Plunge saw is unique and different than other plunge saws.
Give them some credit.

[Mike Heidrick]

Its here boys. It is the corded 520 model.

Saw is made in Czech Republic.
59" track is real nice and not flimzy at all.
Plunge action on the saw is SUPER smooth.
I have already cut the zero clearence edges - saw can cut on both sides without having to flip the track over. Not sure how useful that is to you - but it is a difference from festool I guess.

I will get some pictures tonight.

[Peter Quinn]

[QUOTE=Dino Makropoulos;941927]

Brian,

The Radial arm saw has nothing to do with the Dead Wood Concept.

It seems, Dino, you have taken several posts from different people and arranged them under a quote with my name. I would appreciate it if you would not use my name to quote something i did not write. I will do the same for you.

On that note however, just how different is cutting a piece of wood with a skill saw from cutting a piece of wood with a RAS?

[Peter Quinn]

I think a radial arm saw would meet the criteria, but you don't hear the dead wood people ranting about them.

That is because they don't sell them, and Wally, being dead, isn't around to promote them either. Plus a GOOD RAS will set you back as much as several complete track systems and more then most cabinet saws including Saw stop, so unless you just love them, restored one like I did, or run a large millwork operation where production is a necessity that a skill saw on skates won't fill, the RAS is a non starter. Its tough to rally around a tool few can afford to own.

Oh, and small foot print would not be a good way to describe my RAS. Takes up WAY more room than my skill saw, and almost as much as my cabinet saw.

[Dino Makropoulos]

[QUOTE=Peter Quinn;942674]

It seems, Dino, you have taken several posts from different people and arranged them under a quote with my name. I would appreciate it if you would not use my name to quote something i did not write. I will do the same for you.

On that note however, just how different is cutting a piece of wood with a skill saw from cutting a piece of wood with a RAS?

Peter,
I have no idea how I did it.
I thought you and Brian are in agreement.
No bad intented and sorry if I come across like a playmaker.

The RAS cuts with the blade spinning counter-clock wise.
Similar to the Tablesaw or to a circular saw cutting backwards.
All the forces are directed to the tool top and against the operator.

A forward cutting circular saw blade directs the forces to the underside of the wood
that is under pressure from the saw base and in some cases
under pressure by the guide rails.

When things go wrong with a circular saw (binding-kickbacks)
the CS reacts like a RAS and TS. ( not exact but you get the idea)

Here where the Dead Wood Concept comes into play.
Eliminate the possibility of a kickback by guiding the saw,router, planer etc.
and the same time secure the wood with clamps, pressure, fences etc,
while cutting.

ALL tools can be made to work on the DWC and not only the Guided Systems.
We're working to make all tools safer.
We may even see a DWC TS in the near future.

[Chuck Tringo]

[quote=Dino Makropoulos;942736]

ALL tools can be made to work on the DWC and not only the Guided Systems.
We're working to make all tools safer.
We may even see a DWC TS in the near future.

Dino, wouldn't a good table saw sled with hold downs and a blade guard meet this criteria (at least for crosscuts) ? Havent figured it out for rip cuts yet tho

[Dino Makropoulos]

[QUOTE=Chuck Tringo;942788]

Dino, wouldn't a good table saw sled with hold downs and a blade guard meet this criteria (at least for crosscuts) ? Havent figured it out for rip cuts yet tho

Chuck,
The answer is YES... (FOR THAT OPERATION)
The EU sliders are even closer to the DWC.
They provide clamping jigs for some rip cuts.

Most of the Industrial woodworking machines meet the DWC criteria by 95%.
They provide pressure via rollers and /or pressure plates.

A good tablesaw with a feeder is the closest that you can get
to the DWC for ripping.

[Mike Heidrick]

I missed a post or thread somewhere - what is the DWC??

[tyler mckenzie]

looking at some of the videos that saw looks pretty wobbly. They never show the finished/cut edges of the product, always a quick edit out. I gotta say buy a solid table saw, you'd be crazy to do glues line cuts with that plastic.

[Don Eddard]

I missed a post or thread somewhere - what is the DWC??

Dead Wood Concept.

From, Dino, YCF and the King of the TLA.

[Mike Heidrick]

OK, I should have wrote what is meant by Dead Wood Concept?