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    Electrical Main Panel ??

    ANyone have a rough estiamte as to what an electrician would charge to bring the electric just to the main panel

    Looking to upgrade from 100 amp to 200 amp load center - adn possibly rewire the house...Obv with professional help and overview but would liek a rough idea as my father would be able to assist me running everything inside.
    Joe

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    I had an electrician put in a new stand pipe outside, bring the wires down to a new 200 amp main box and unhook the old 100 amp service inside and wire the old circuits into the new box. He charged me 800 dollars.
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    Are you looking to upgrade your service from 100 amps to 200 amps or just put in a larger panelboard?

    If you want to upgrade the service, you need to call your local power company (LOPOCO) and see if the service conductors from the LOPOCO can handle the increased amperage. It is possible that the underground or overhead conductors would need to be upgraded.

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    Looking to upgrade. I need a larger panel and might as well upgrade. The board is all filled up - no empty breakers. However after tonight that may change. I found a few breakers in the basement that are only powering 1 light or 1 receptacle. But i def would like a larger panel
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    87 dollars. Which is the amount when there isn't any real way to tell.

    What it would cost here will be considerably different in different areas. You could have as much as a hundred or more difference just in permits.

    Get with the local power company and make sure their feed can handle it and make a few calls. Most contractors still give free estimates or at least they should if they don't have much time invested in doing so.

    $500 to $1000 should be a ballpark if nothing unusual has to be done.

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    A panelboard can have a max of 42 breakers in it (not counting the main breaker). A 2-pole breaker counts as 2 breakers. See 408.35.

    If you're already at the max of 42, you could always add a subpanel to give yourself more breaker slots.

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    Its just a small panel board I'm lucky if I have 15-20 breakers whether 2 pole or not, and like every else in the male mindset I want a BIGGER one
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    Joe,
    If the main breaker in your home is upgraded, the electrician in required to update everything in the house to current code. Why rewire the whole house? As in pull all new cable, plugs, switches etc??? If your house isn't new or a few years old, that can be a pricey proposition to bring it up to current code.
    I was looking to go from 100A to 200A last year, but having to change the incoming line height to current code and a few other items brought the bid in @ $6K.
    Bosses son in law is an electrician, I recruited him for some beer and with me helping in one day we had a sub-panel out in the garage. I hung & bent the conduit and ran all the circuits from the sub panel to my tools etc the next day. Total of about $200 & it's all done right.

    Not an electrician & not versed in IEC speak... so take it for what it's worth.

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    Joe,

    Just a suggestion, I would buy another panel and mount it right next to your existing panel just install a double pole breaker into the existing box and connect it to your new box. Run all of your new wires into the new box.

    Basically you are installing a sub panel.

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    you can also but some duplex breakers breakers (2 breakers in 1 slot. That would free up some room.

    I currently have a 200 amp 42 slot banel and I ran out of room. I am remodeling the house, eliminating the old knob and tube wiring. So I am installing the duplex breakers 15/20 15 amps for the lights and 20 for the recepticals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Cole View Post
    If the main breaker in your home is upgraded, the electrician in required to update everything in the house to current code.
    Greg,

    That's not necessarily true. I'd check with the local Authority Having Jurisdiction (the inspectors) to see if they require that in your area.

    We upgraded our 100 amp service to 200 amp service with a larger panelboard and didn't have to touch any of the other wiring in the house.

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Long View Post
    I currently have a 200 amp 42 slot banel and I ran out of room. I am remodeling the house, eliminating the old knob and tube wiring. So I am installing the duplex breakers 15/20 15 amps for the lights and 20 for the recepticals.
    If your 42 slot panelboard is full, you shouldn't be putting 1/2-size breakers into it. It's at the max of what you're supposed to put in the panelboard.

    You should add a subpanel and run new circuits from there.

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Russell View Post
    Greg,

    That's not necessarily true. I'd check with the local Authority Having Jurisdiction (the inspectors) to see if they require that in your area.

    We upgraded our 100 amp service to 200 amp service with a larger panelboard and didn't have to touch any of the other wiring in the house.

    Rob
    Rob, where were ya when I just about threw the electrician out of the house with his bid last year? LOL
    That's a great point in all seriousness. It pays to ask the right people the right questions, or maybe it saves $?

    Greg

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    Thanks for all the advice - addt'l shop question

    I think I solved the problem-o

    After further invetigation I can free up 3 breakers

    1 breaker = 1 light in garage
    1 breaker = 1 receptacle in garage
    1 breaker = 1 light in are between garage and basement/future shop on switch
    1 breaker = 1 light in 4 X 4 cedar closet

    I'm going to consolidate them into 1

    I'm debating on tearing the old masonite panenling and drop ceiling down.

    Is this is my best interest that I replace this with drywall or leave it open?

    Drop ceiling is god awful looking anyway and filthy
    Joe

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    Sounds good on the consolidation...nice find! Just don't use the breaker box as your junction box to tie those circuits together!

    As far as replacing open bays with drywall, is there any fire code that insists you do it? In other words, is there living space on the other side? It might be nice to put a new surface on that you can paint a nice bright white for light reflection.
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