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    ShopBot Camp taught me Vacuum Tricks!

    Almost 2 months ago Ed and Keith talked me into going to Ed's ShopBot camp, even though I didn't have a ShopBot or any plans to have one.

    One thing talked about for more than 1 hour was vacuum and holding parts down to cut them using vacuum. I had messed with vacuum tables a little in the past, but mostly for metal cutting, and it always worked with limited results.

    So, several weeks ago, I throw a sheet of Ultra Thin IPI plastic in (Rowmark color doesn't match customers spec), and I had 500 tags to engrave and then kiss cut. About 1/2 way through, I glanced over and found my work floating inside the cabinet and the laser kept on going

    About that time it hit me that I had a vacuum table and wasn't using it as such. So I took a couple of pieces of scrap material I had, put a new sheet of Ultra Thin down, and then blocked off all the area around the material. Man, did it suck that material down!

    Worked like a champ. A week later, I had a job that called for some material I already had in stock (IPI bowed up material), and I put it on the table, turned the exhaust on, and then blocked off the open areas on the table with some sheet vinyl scrap I had. Again, pulled 1/2" bow right out of the material.

    My machine is running right now on a piece that's got a huge amount of material removed. Did one last week and fought it, as it's so much removed that it wants to bow. Did it just now and used the vacuum technique learned in ShopBot Camp, and danged if it didn't keep the material from bowing up while cutting out that large area.

    It's so simple and one of those "Dohhhh" moments. I thought I was smarter than that, but apparently not. So if you are like me and you have been staring at the open honeycomb pattern, stop and cover those things up and watch it suck the material flat down on the table.

    Try it, you'll like it.

    Thanks Ed, and thanks ShopBot guys. You really helped me with my laser work!
    Lasers : Trotec Speedy 300 75W, Trotec Speedy 300 80W, Galvo Fiber Laser 20W
    Printers : Mimaki UJF-6042 UV Flatbed Printer , HP Designjet L26500 61" Wide Format Latex Printer, Summa S140-T 48" Vinyl Plotter
    Router : ShopBot 48" x 96" CNC Router Rotary Engravers : (2) Xenetech XOT 16 x 25 Rotary Engravers

    Real name Steve but that name was taken on the forum. Used Middle name. Call me Steve or Scott, doesn't matter.

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    Ed Newbold Guest
    Any possibility of a photo or two to illustrate how you're doing the vacuum thing?

    Thanks a million,

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    Hi Scott,

    Glad you were able to take something from the camp and apply it to your laser

    It is always good to hear feedback on what folks are doing with ideas gained from the camps.

    There is one this weekend in Kitty Hawk, NC if you have time
    Trotec Speedy 300 45W
    Universal VLS4.60 50W
    Universal M-300 50w
    ShopBot PRSAlpha48
    Techno LC4848
    Oneway 2436

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    Ed, nothing special made, it's just the standard vector honeycomb table. I'll see if I can take a couple of photos to explain it.
    Lasers : Trotec Speedy 300 75W, Trotec Speedy 300 80W, Galvo Fiber Laser 20W
    Printers : Mimaki UJF-6042 UV Flatbed Printer , HP Designjet L26500 61" Wide Format Latex Printer, Summa S140-T 48" Vinyl Plotter
    Router : ShopBot 48" x 96" CNC Router Rotary Engravers : (2) Xenetech XOT 16 x 25 Rotary Engravers

    Real name Steve but that name was taken on the forum. Used Middle name. Call me Steve or Scott, doesn't matter.

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    Hi Ed N., sorry for the delay, finally brought my camera in.

    Here's a photo with the normal setup. Material in place, all the open area on the honeycomb table. Click on the photo for a larger version (on both photos).

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    Here's the 2nd photo with that exposed honeycomb area blocked off, which makes it suck the material down. It'll pull 1/2" bow out of the material and hold it dead flat while it's being lasered.

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    Lasers : Trotec Speedy 300 75W, Trotec Speedy 300 80W, Galvo Fiber Laser 20W
    Printers : Mimaki UJF-6042 UV Flatbed Printer , HP Designjet L26500 61" Wide Format Latex Printer, Summa S140-T 48" Vinyl Plotter
    Router : ShopBot 48" x 96" CNC Router Rotary Engravers : (2) Xenetech XOT 16 x 25 Rotary Engravers

    Real name Steve but that name was taken on the forum. Used Middle name. Call me Steve or Scott, doesn't matter.

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    I do the same thing!

    It works great!

    Fine machine you have there
    Trotec Speedy 300 45W
    Universal VLS4.60 50W
    Universal M-300 50w
    ShopBot PRSAlpha48
    Techno LC4848
    Oneway 2436

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Lang View Post
    I do the same thing!

    It works great!

    Fine machine you have there
    Of course you do, I learned it at your house Amazing how super simple the concept is and I've never thought of it. I always thought of the table as a means to evacuate fumes, not to hold work down. Guess I had tunnel vision. Glad you got me looking at it correctly!
    Lasers : Trotec Speedy 300 75W, Trotec Speedy 300 80W, Galvo Fiber Laser 20W
    Printers : Mimaki UJF-6042 UV Flatbed Printer , HP Designjet L26500 61" Wide Format Latex Printer, Summa S140-T 48" Vinyl Plotter
    Router : ShopBot 48" x 96" CNC Router Rotary Engravers : (2) Xenetech XOT 16 x 25 Rotary Engravers

    Real name Steve but that name was taken on the forum. Used Middle name. Call me Steve or Scott, doesn't matter.

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