Greetings all,
It is time for me to build myself a proper bench. I am at the design stage. I am also not an expert on workbenches and would like to request some input from folks with more experience.
I do have the books by Landis and Schleining, as well as one by Sam Allen. They've been very helpful. Apologies in advance if I'm asking something that is covered in these books. I've read them, but I find that these books don't really work so well as a reference. They're great books when you just sit down and read them, but if I'm looking for some arcane detail, it's hard to find.
Here's an overall picture of what I have in mind:
It's a "tray in the middle" design. Of the many outstanding benches I have seen here on the Creek, I suppose my design is most similar to Chris Del's.
I'm right handed, so I've got the front vise on the left and a tail vise on the right end. For now I plan to simply build a shelf down below, not a cabinet.
The tool tray in the middle is a removable piece of 3/4 inch plywood.
The top slabs are 4 inches thick. I want this bench to be really heavy. Estimated weight right now for the whole bench is about 412 pounds.
The slabs are 14 inches wide, so I can run them through my 15 inch planer, and because I don't think they need to be any wider than that anyway. I plan to build the top slabs myself, laminating from pieces of 8/4 or 12/4 oak turned on their side.
The top slabs are 80 inches long. I'm not completely settled on this yet. I might go down to 72, just because I'm not sure I need lots of length and I AM sure that I hate working with long heavy boards.
Total height of the bench is 36 inches. I might change this to 35 inches.
The tray is 8 inches wide, so the total width of the bench is 36 inches. I'm aware that this is wider than average, but I'm okay with that. This bench will sit in the middle of my shop, not up against the wall, so I'll have access to all sides.
In my day job I am a computer programmer. The software I used to draw these pictures is a hobby project of mine. The light colored wood for the top is maple. I plan to build the supporting structure (the brown wood) from red oak, since I've got quite a bit of it sitting around wanting to be used. The software draws endgrain in yellow.
The software can't draw a vise, but I've included the jaws. So you can see the front vise on the left side of the bench and the tail vise on the right end. The tail vise is going to be a Veritas twin screw. I'm not yet sure what the front vise will be.
I've got 4 rows of dog holes, which will be round. They're spaced 6 inches apart.
The right end cap (also the rear jaw of the vise) is attached to the top slabs by cutting a tenon in the slabs and a dado in the endcap. I won't glue the whole length, so the top will have room to move.
The vise jaws are 8 1/4 inches, based simply on the thickness of the top and recommendations from the instruction manual for the Veritas twin screw vise.
Here's a picture from underneath:
The trestle has feet and bearers with two sets of long stretchers and one set of short stretchers.
I've got about 16 inches of overhang on the right side to give room for the vise hardware underneath.
Question 1: Is this too much? Is it a bad idea to cantilever that far?
Question 2: Are dog holes supposed to be drilled all the way through like this? I think so, but the books don't usually show pictures of the underside of a bench.
Question 3: What about the dog holes in the vise jaws? Should they be drilled all the way through as well?
Here's a picture of the left end:
(My software draws plywood edges in red.)
The tool tray is supported by dadoes cut in the side of the top slabs. The dado is an inch deep, cut one half inch up from the bottom of the slab.
Question 4: Is this is a good idea, or should I be supporting the tool tray in some other way? I've seen plenty of other benches with a center tool tray, but it's not always clear what the tray is resting on. I don't like the idea of just supporting it on the trestle bearers, since then it would be cantilevered at the ends.
Here's a picture looking from the front at the lower part of the bench:
I've got a set of long stretchers down low with a plywood shelf between them. The shelf is supported by another board glued onto the inside of the stretchers. The shelf will be two pieces of 3/4 inch plywood glued together, for a total thickness of 1.5 inches.
Above that, I've got another set of long stretchers. I got this idea from Schleining's book IIRC.
I decided not to put an apron all the way around the bench. If the apron is taller than the thickness of the top, I'm worried it will interfere with clamping stuff to the top.
Question 5: Is this wise? I've seen other benches here without an apron in front, so I'm guessing that I won't get myself into TOO much trouble with this choice. Still, I'm not sure I fully understand the tradeoffs of this particular design issue. I've seen benches with a row of what appear to be dogholes in the front apron. Is this the feature I'll be missing out on?
Here's another shot from below:
This picture shows that the dog holes miss the bearer on the right side but I still need to tweak something on the left side, since the dog holes are hitting the left bearer.
Here's a picture of part of the trestle in progress:
All the joinery in the trestle is done with mortises. The stretchers will simply be inserted into the mortises shown in the picture above. The legs, feet and bearers are 4 inches by 4 inches.
Question 6: Is this a bad idea? Is there any reason I need to actually cut tenons in the stretcher, rather than just inserting the end of the stretcher into a mortise?
I don't plan to actually cut these mortises. Rather, I plan to laminate the legs and build the mortises by simply leaving out wood when I laminate.
The following picture is a shot of the foot with mortises for the leg tenons. Unlike the stretchers, the legs will actually have tenons (built from laminating them).
Here's a shot of the completed trestle before the top goes on:
One thing I haven't figured out yet is how to attach the top slabs to the trestle bearers. I know I need to be careful about expansion of the top, I just haven't figured out exactly how I want to do this.
Question 7: Are the short stretchers overkill? I want this to be really sturdy, no racking at all, but if I'm overbuilding this to the point of absurdity, I don't mind hearing somebody say so.
Question 8: I'm planning to glue the whole trestle together. Should I not? Should I be using bolts through the mortises and stuff like that?
The final picture is a shot of the top before the endcap goes on. The tenons for the end cap are cut in the slabs, and you can see the dadoes in the inside sides of the slabs for the tray.
Question 9: Is there some better way to attach the end cap? I know I can't glue it all the across because of the cross-grain joint, but I'm open to other suggestions.
Question 10: Any other advice?
Thanks in advance!