Where are our ladies?

[Chris Barton]

Seems like I haven't seen many post by Carole and Shelly lately. Where are our lady friends?

[Andy Hoyt]

Been wondering about that too. Add Pat Jeddy to the list.

And while we're at it - where's Bill Stevener?

[Ed Scolforo]

I see that Carole has been pretty active on Wood Central. Don't know about the others.

[Lee DeRaud]

Normah is MIA as well.

[Tyler Howell]

You spin heads drove them off. Just as they were bringing a little class to this place.

[Jim Dunn]

Don't add me to the list of spin heads who drove all the ladies off,(I don't really think we did). I kinda like ladies/turners as it keeps my language in line.

[Steve Ash]

You spin heads drove them off. Just as they were bringing a little class to this place

....and they had a newbie just the other day, and she only got Mr. Hart's attention. oops...also Bernie.
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=33726

shame on you guys .

Just kidding, you are all fine upstanding gentleman....

[John Hart]

Carole told me in a PM that she is swamped at work and trying to reduce her face-time with that DANG COMPUTER!!!

Guess she's busy.

[Dennis Peacock]

Carole told me in a PM that she is swamped at work and trying to reduce her face-time with that DANG COMPUTER!!!

Guess she's busy.

Sheesh!!!! I need to do that as well...!!!!!

[Andy Hoyt]

But if computers ARE her work and she's reducing the amount of face she gives to the computer, how can she be swamped?

[Frank Chaffee]

Chris,
I cannot answer your question with surety, but I will offer you my theory.
• Someone pointed out that the emperor had no clothes.
• Some averted their eyes.
• A very few publicly concurred with that observation.
• No small number (especially from the turning community), viciously attacked the person who originally stated her observation.
• Medical opinions and advice were dispensed by one who had no qualifications to do so regarding the chemical and psychological condition of the original observer.
• SMC members (and the internet community at large), were allowed to observe and/or post to the thread for many hours after it violated our TOS.
• Some women SMC members either observed this travesty of the TOS application or heard of it through the grapevine, and were so appalled and threatened by the conduct of male Creekers in said thread that they have chosen to keep company with woodworkers on forums that respect women rather than the Creek where immature over the hill men have been slipping in their drool in their laughably self-demeaning efforts to faun before any woman who posts here.

Frankly Chris, I see the Creek as a (the?), most wonderful resource for people at all levels of woodworking expertise to come together and share questions and knowledge. I post this because I am terribly concerned that your question points to a vital aspect of the Creek’s evolution that must be addressed. People can be seriously hurt in the exchanges we have here, and I hope we will all wake up to that.

Frank

[Chris Barton]

Chris,
I cannot answer your question with surety, but I will offer you my theory.
• Someone pointed out that the emperor had no clothes.
• Some averted their eyes.
• A very few publicly concurred with that observation.
• No small number (especially from the turning community), viciously attacked the person who originally stated her observation.
• Medical opinions and advice were dispensed by one who had no qualifications to do so regarding the chemical and psychological condition of the original observer.
• SMC members (and the internet community at large), were allowed to observe and/or post to the thread for many hours after it violated our TOS.
• Some women SMC members either observed this travesty of the TOS application or heard of it through the grapevine, and were so appalled and threatened by the conduct of male Creekers in said thread that they have chosen to keep company with woodworkers on forums that respect women rather than the Creek where immature over the hill men have been slipping in their drool in their laughably self-demeaning efforts to faun before any woman who posts here.

Frankly Chris, I see the Creek as a (the?), most wonderful resource for people at all levels of woodworking expertise to come together and share questions and knowledge. I post this because I am terribly concerned that your question points to a vital aspect of the Creek’s evolution that must be addressed. People can be seriously hurt in the exchanges we have here, and I hope we will all wake up to that.

Frank

Thanks Frank. I did get some personal communications from some of the ladies that echoed exactly what you said. And, sadly I was suspecting something of that nature to be the case. I was unaware of the original situation that precipitated this so I was a bit clueless at first. I agree with your observations entirely.

Ladies, please come back! We aren't all bad. And I promise that at least most of us are interested in your woodworking skills and unique perspective. We need your diversity!

[John Hart]

hmmmm. I just went back and found that thread. Wasn't aware of it at the time.

[Ken Fitzgerald]

What a shame! I, for one, miss their postings and hope I wasn't involved in driving them away. I vaguely remember the thread...........

[Frank Chaffee]

hmmmm. I just went back and found that thread. Wasn't aware of it at the time.

I did not report the first waytoofaroutthere post as a bad post because I thot that it would speak for itself and deflate the negative arguments of some cruel posters. Unfortunately, I learned the next day, that was not the case, and the thread continued for quite some time in a very negative manner before being removed.
If you are interested in this subject John Hart (and in my book you are referred to as “the esteemed John Hart), you may use your moderator status to also read the thread I began the next day titled “A sign of the times”, which was also moved to the moderators forum.
Frank