NON Woodworkers = pet peeves

[Edward Weber]

As woodworkers (or any other trade/craft) there are terms and language specific to our craft that we use, that outsiders pick up on and then usually use incorrectly.

Today's pet peeve, Burl
How many non woodworkers use burl incorrectly? (Hint; it's all of them)

Looking at my local auction today and came accross a listing for some Burl-Walnut Planks.
Burl walnut.jpg
Anyone want to tell me where the burl is?

One can only guess but maybe they meant to say crotch.

What woodworking terms have you heard used incorrectly lately?

[Cameron Wood]

"Solid wood" describing furniture on Craigslist, etc.. 85% chance that that is not true.

[Steve Eure]

Those that say they can buy a similar crafted product much cheaper some where's else, not realizing the cost of materials, excluding labor and other materials such as sandpaper, glue, etc. Case in point, I had a woman who wanted a particular crafted piece where I had to go and buy a slab and she decided she only wanted less than half in here project. I had to drive 6 hours to pick up the wood. Luckily I was going that way anyhow, but still you have to add gas and travel time into the equitation. She then complained about the price after she had commissioned me to do it and we had already agreed on the price. I still have the other half of the slab in my shop 2 years later with no idea what to do with it.

[Rich Engelhardt]

Vintage.

Every rusty non-working piece of crap someone is selling that they know nothing about is always listed as - vintage.

[Edward Weber]

Another one that is sort of used by NON woodworkers (content creators) is Pallet wood.
What the heck is pallet wood?
I've seen pallets made from pine to oak and everything in between. What does a pallet tree look like?

So you tell me it's wood that used te be a pallet, okay get it.
I built some shelves from wood that was previously a pair of end tables, is it end-table wood?

[Frederick Skelly]

Hand Made.

Then they tell you their CNC cut all the pieces.


[I recognize that CNC has valid uses for woodworking and saves a bunch of time, potentially increases precision, etc. But if the project is totally CNC and the “maker” simply glues it together, it might be considered woodworking, but it certainly isn’t “hand made”. To me, anyway - YMMV.]

[Malcolm Schweizer]

Everything is mahogany. I saw a pine table once that was “mahogany.” It looked like it was even treated pine from HD that was stained with a mahogany-ish stain.

[stephen thomas]

coffee table to paller.jpeg

(copied from Practical Machinist)

[Stan Calow]

Everything is mahogany. I saw a pine table once that was “mahogany.” It looked like it was even treated pine from HD that was stained with a mahogany-ish stain.

Similarly, when people refer to furniture as Cherry when they mean a dark red color, not the wood. Recognizing that color is all that decorators care about.

[Edward Weber]

coffee table to paller.jpeg

(copied from Practical Machinist)

That's right up there with this

[Jim Becker]

Hand Made.

Then they tell you their CNC cut all the pieces.


[I recognize that CNC has valid uses for woodworking and saves a bunch of time, potentially increases precision, etc. But if the project is totally CNC and the “maker” simply glues it together, it might be considered woodworking, but it certainly isn’t “hand made”. To me, anyway - YMMV.]

Keep in mind that components cut on the CNC are not generally ready to slap together and require a lot of finesse work before most projects come together. (An exception being cabinet parts, etc.) The CNC cuts, but then the hand tool and sanding work commences.

[Frederick Skelly]

Hi Jim.
I thought I might hear from you on that one Sir!
Thanks for your insights!
Fred

[Edward Weber]

Keep in mind that components cut on the CNC are not generally ready to slap together and require a lot of finesse work before most projects come together. (An exception being cabinet parts, etc.) The CNC cuts, but then the hand tool and sanding work commences.

With all due respect to you Jim and I really do mean that.
This is the same type of response as in the Festool thread.
You seem to be quite sensitive about others views on such things, a pet peeve maybe?

Everyone has a different perspective on this.
We all know CNC's have their own level of skills involved but you know, when someone says "hand made" what they mean. It's not something you can tell was mass produced by machine.

[Patty Hann]

Everything is mahogany. I saw a pine table once that was “mahogany.” It looked like it was even treated pine from HD that was stained with a mahogany-ish stain.

The earlier version of that was "Cherry".
Years ago (25?) co-worker insisted the bedroom set she was selling was "Solid cherry" .
I dug my thumbnail into the back of the headboard and left a sizeable (and deep) dent.
I said, "It's pine or some other softwood, but cherry it ain't. You can't advertise it as any hardwood, only as pine."
I have no idea how she finally listed it, but she didn't speak to me for a couple of weeks.

[Jim Becker]

With all due respect to you Jim and I really do mean that.
This is the same type of response as in the Festool thread.
You seem to be quite sensitive about others views on such things, a pet peeve maybe?.

You clearly do not know me, Edward, or you wouldn't think that.