Ashley Harwood Tools???

[Neil Strong]

I did also have this happen once with a Carter and Sons gouge, the simply sent out a new one, no questions asked.
It happens, how it's dealt with is the real issue.

If you sent that photo to Doug I'm sure he would also replace it with no further questions asked. I've purchased dozen's of gouges from Doug and only ever had an issue with one of them. He immediately sent a replacement for it.

[Edward Weber]

If you sent that photo to Doug I'm sure he would also replace it with no further questions asked. I've purchased dozen's of gouges from Doug and only ever had an issue with one of them. He immediately sent a replacement for it.

I already stated, when this happened, circa 2004, I was given an unwanted explanation of why and told I had to pay return shipping, which I did. This happen again and I stopped buying from Thompson. I would be willing to give them another try but don't have a need right now.

[Neil Strong]

I already stated, when this happened, circa 2004, I was given an unwanted explanation of why and told I had to pay return shipping, which I did. This happen again and I stopped buying from Thompson. I would be willing to give them another try but don't have a need right now.

All of the gouges I purchased from Doug were from 2009 onwards, 5yrs after you purchased yours Edward, so perhaps Doug became more business like after what I would agree was an unacceptable buying experience from him before that.

[Thomas Wilson80]

Yeah, similar experience as Neil and others. I started turning in 2016 and have made several purchases from Doug with top-notch service and quality. He has responded to questions quickly and has been very helpful. Not to minimize your frustrating experiences but it seems like he may have fixed whatever issues there were early on.
Tom

[John Kananis]

I called (Thompson tools) the other night because I thought an order went through twice for a couple of scrapers (it didn't)... regardless, Doug himself answered the call. He was sitting in traffic on his way back from SWAT and was more than happy to chat. I like this kind of dedication and personal commitment and makes me want to give him more of my business.

[Edward Weber]

Maybe I've been turning longer or just had more bad luck than the rest of you.
I would advise checking your shiny new tools for true, before you put a handle on them.

[Bill Howatt]

I'm pretty vague about the timeline but IIRC many years ago Doug had problems with the production of the tools but the issue was resolved. I had an unrelated ordering problem and the generous resolution I got from him made me a return customer.

[John Kananis]

She certainly takes her time shipping! I put my order in a while ago... my card was finally charged 3 days ago and I was sent a usps tracking link. It still says awaiting item from shipper. I mean, I know the swat event was just happening but some type of message at least on your site letting folks know it'll be a week before you can get things going.

[John Kananis]

They have arrived!

Half inch and 5/8 next to a 5/8 Oneway Mastercut and half inch Sorby. Her 1/2" inch is about the same size as my 3/8" Sorby. I understand that North America and UK measure flute/shaft differently. I think that going forward, now that I see the flutes all side by side, I'll be using the Oneway when the largest cuts are to be made.

Bowl Gouges.jpg

Edit: I didn't mention, all the above are parabolic but (using the Sorby as the standard), the oneway is much wider and the AH tools are just slightly narrower (but not much and that was just a visual inspection, no calipers).

[Neil Strong]

They have arrived!

Half inch and 5/8 next to a 5/8 Oneway Mastercut and half inch Sorby. Her 1/2" inch is about the same size as my 3/8" Sorby. I understand that North America and UK measure flute/shaft differently. I think that going forward, now that I see the flutes all side by side, I'll be using the Oneway when the largest cuts are to be made.

Bowl Gouges.jpg

Edit: I didn't mention, all the above are parabolic but (using the Sorby as the standard), the oneway is much wider and the AH tools are just slightly narrower (but not much and that was just a visual inspection, no calipers).

Yes, Nth America measures bar width and the UK measure something else that is always confusing, like from the inside of flute on one side to the outside of the bar on the other side. Down here back when we used to get all of our gouges from the UK (Sorby, Henry Taylor, Crown, etc.) we used the UK system, but then moved haphazardly over to the bar width system of measurements, which is makes more sense.

If you have read my thread on flute profiles you will know that I find them endlessly fascinating. And, as you have observed, the parabolic flute profile comes in many variations, but in my experience they all perform quite well despite their apparent differences. Looking at the flute on that Oneway Mastercut I would think it an ideal gouge to grind into an inside bottom bowl gouge.

https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread....te-Descriptors

Have fun with your new gouges!

[John Kananis]

Hi Neil, I thought you might like the additional pics and yes, i rememberthe thread. I actually have a 5/8" U-shaped gouge from Carter and sons that I use as a bottom bowl gouge. I've been looking at the larger one from D-way as well.

Yes, Nth America measures bar width and the UK measure something else that is always confusing, like from the inside of flute on one side to the outside of the bar on the other side. Down here back when we used to get all of our gouges from the UK (Sorby, Henry Taylor, Crown, etc.) we used the UK system, but then moved haphazardly over to the bar width system of measurements, which is makes more sense.

If you have read my thread on flute profiles you will know that I find them endlessly fascinating. And, as you have observed, the parabolic flute profile comes in many variations, but in my experience they all perform quite well despite their apparent differences. Looking at the flute on that Oneway Mastercut I would think it an ideal gouge to grind into an inside bottom bowl gouge.

https://sawmillcreek.org/showthread....te-Descriptors

Have fun with your new gouges!

[Neil Strong]

Hi Neil, I thought you might like the additional pics...

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I actually have a 5/8" U-shaped gouge from Carter and sons that I use as a bottom bowl gouge. I've been looking at the larger one from D-way as well.

John

I got one of those 3/4"-U gouges from D-Way myself primarily for doing inside bottom of bowls. It may have just been me, but I found it too light for that size gouge with just 3.6mm (9/64") left below the flute. I'm used to weight and rigidity with more metal left below the flute in larger gouges, so I gave it away to a fellow turner from whom I have heard no complaints.

Before passing it on I did change the grind on it for doing outside final finishing cuts, which it managed quite well. M42 is a good steel for taking the fine edge that is needed for final finishing cuts. However, I have more than enough gouges for doing final finishing cuts in my tool rack so it was better to find a new home for it where it might be better loved.

[John Kananis]

I'm kinda sad to hear you say this. I was going to put a 30 inch handle on one of those and call my tools complete (for a little while at least lol).

Carter and sons doesn't have a larger than 5/8" U gouge. I've looked at the Thompson site and he has a 3/4 bottom bowl gouge but I've read once or twice that it's not a true U (and I wanted the m42 for this purpose - not that I have anything against 10v, I've accumulated a lot of it recently).

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John

I got one of those 3/4"-U gouges from D-Way myself primarily for doing inside bottom of bowls. It may have just been me, but I found it too light for that size gouge with just 3.6mm (9/64") left below the flute. I'm used to weight and rigidity with more metal left below the flute in larger gouges, so I gave it away to a fellow turner from whom I have heard no complaints.

Before passing it on I did change the grind on it for doing outside final finishing cuts, which it managed quite well. M42 is a good steel for taking the fine edge that is needed for final finishing cuts. However, I have more than enough gouges for doing final finishing cuts in my tool rack so it was better to find a new home for it where it might be better loved.

[Neil Strong]

I'm kinda sad to hear you say this. I was going to put a 30 inch handle on one of those and call my tools complete (for a little while at least lol).

Here is the flute profile on the 3/4"-U from D-Way...

D-way 3-4in BG.jpg

Comparing that with the Crown 1" BG you can see what I mean by there being comparatively very little steel left below the flute and weight left in the D-Way.

Crown 1in BG.jpg

However, this may not be an issue for you. If you could borrow one off someone to try yourself that could help you to decide.

[John Kananis]

Here is the flute profile on the 3/4"-U from D-Way...

D-way 3-4in BG.jpg

Comparing that with the Crown 1" BG you can see what I mean by there being comparatively very little steel left below the flute and weight left in the D-Way.

Crown 1in BG.jpg

However, this may not be an issue for you. If you could borrow one off someone to try yourself that could help you to decide.

I'll ask at my club meeting next month and see if someone has one. It does look a little "thin" in the pic. Ty

Edit: in fairness, for a gouge that size, it's not removing that much wood. I'm eager to get my hands on one now and check the feel of it out.