Shaker Window Sash Profile

[James White]

Hellos All,

I need some help with some window sashes. I am tasked to build some window sashes for an interior partition wall between a pantry and kitchen for a client. I mistakenly offered a shaker profile. However it turns out the cutter set I was planing on using only goes to a max thickness of material of 7/8". I want the sashes to be 1-1/2" thick since they will have true divided light and are about 55" tall. So 7/8 would be too flimsy. For the life of me I cant find any sash/muntin cutters in a shaker profile. Is there some way to use the infinity cutter set I linked to make the sashes that I want? Do you know of a router bit set that will cut this thickness sash in a shaker profile?

https://infinitytools.com/products/3...uter-bit-set-5

[William Hodge]

Here's a profile from a shaker building.

Temp.pdf

These are custom cutters, but the profile is a copy of an 1840's Shaker sash.

[Mel Fulks]

Try looking up Ovolo sash ,and cutters

[James White]

Thank you for that. However this is the profile I showed the client.
https://infinitytools.com/cdn/shop/f...p?v=1705899330

Here's a profile from a shaker building.

Temp.pdf

These are custom cutters, but the profile is a copy of an 1840's Shaker sash.

[John Kananis]

James, call and speak to the guys over at Whiteside. Awesome, knowledgeable folks over there and they're usually more than happy to make custom profiles (they used to at least).

Thank you for that. However this is the profile I showed the client.
https://infinitytools.com/cdn/shop/f...p?v=1705899330

[John Kananis]

Also, you can always cut mortises for floating tenons prior to routing the profiles.

[James White]

Ya, I was thinking about using my domino with the trim stop jig I think its called. But I would need to do a mock up to see if it would work on the muntins.

Also, you can always cut mortises for floating tenons prior to routing the profiles.

[Maurice Mcmurry]

There are lots of windows pictured in the writings about the Shakers but I do not see a whole lot about sash construction.

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https://www.shakers.org/schoolhouse-...haker-village/

https://www.traditionalbuilding.com/...c-wood-windows

[Tom M King]

James, call and speak to the guys over at Whiteside. Awesome, knowledgeable folks over there and they're usually more than happy to make custom profiles (they used to at least).

Whiteside only makes multiples of six of any custom bit now. There is a place just down the road from them that does make singles though. Hickory Saw and Tool. I haven't bought any is some years now, but I'd expect more than $300 each these days.

[John Kananis]

That's too bad, they were pretty accommodating about that a ways back.

Whiteside only makes multiples of six of any custom bit now. There is a place just down the road from them that does make singles though. Hickory Saw and Tool. I haven't bought any is some years now, but I'd expect more than $300 each these days.

[Tom M King]

They sent me to Hickory when they changed. They’re just as accommodating and bits just as good..

[Tom M King]

For just a few sash, I would just use a molding plane. I probably have ones for that size sash.

[James White]

There are five windows that are approximately 26x56. While the neander in me says yes. My neck and shoulders are saying heck no!

For just a few sash, I would just use a molding plane. I probably have ones for that size sash.

[Richard Coers]

The Shakers would not have decorated sash though. Bridal joints, or draw bore mortise and through tenon. The Historical Society I belong to owns a one room country schoolhouse. Still has the original draw bore sash in it, looks like Douglas Fir that had to have come in by steam train from the coast in 1861.
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[James White]

Thank you for your input. So the sashes would be square edged? Not even a bevel? What profile would be put on the glazing bars (muntins)?

The Shakers would not have decorated sash though. Bridal joints, or draw bore mortise and through tenon. The Historical Society I belong to owns a one room country schoolhouse. Still has the original draw bore sash in it, looks like Douglas Fir that had to have come in by steam train from the coast in 1861.
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