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    Best Shaper Under $5000?

    Hey everyone I have a nice router table, but I've been thinking of upgrading to a shaper. I'm thinking 5hp would be ideal, but I'm not sure what other features exactly I should be looking for.

    There are 3 that seem like a good fit and I'm hoping to get some feedback based on their specs and/or personal experiences. I'm also open to other recommendations of course:

    Laguna Pro
    https://www.woodcraft.com/products/l...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

    Oliver - Seems like a steal at this price
    https://www.elitemetaltools.com/tool...gaApi_EALw_wcB

    Hammer - I like the slider but it's only 4hp and costs $5k
    https://www.felder-group.com/en-us/p...per-f3-p421957

    Thanks everyone for the help!

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    I have the Laguna Pro 5hp. I had a Grizzly 1026 before. I believe a shaper lives and dies by the fence. I love the fence on the Laguna and hated the one on the Grizzly. The Oliver fence looks similar to the Laguna. The Hammer has a tilting spindle but I don't know how much I would use that. If you have any specific questions on the Laguna let me know.

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    There is never a "best", just one that has the features someone likes. Your listing of 3 proves the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Coers View Post
    There is never a "best", just one that has the features someone likes. Your listing of 3 proves the point.
    Yea I guess I'm wondering from people that know more about shapers than I do what features or pros some of these have that actually matter to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary Falk View Post
    I have the Laguna Pro 5hp. I had a Grizzly 1026 before. I believe a shaper lives and dies by the fence. I love the fence on the Laguna and hated the one on the Grizzly. The Oliver fence looks similar to the Laguna. The Hammer has a tilting spindle but I don't know how much I would use that. If you have any specific questions on the Laguna let me know.
    Yea I tend to agree on the tilting. I'm sure it is cool, but probably not super useful for me. Thanks for the info on the Laguna. Seems like a solid unit.

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    Where are you located? Are you set on a new machine? Do you have three phase available?

    Iím asking because youíre likely to be able to get a into a really nice older euro machine at that price point.

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    I have had one w a tilting head for 9 months or so. I haven't used the tilting head yet but I would have used the sliding bed if it had one for stiles.

    So I would put that higher on the list. But then again I can always buy an aftermarket solution for the sliding bed but I can't add a tilting head later.

    Also a shaper without a power feeder wouldn't be using it to its full potential.

    I'm not a shaper expert yet. Just made cab doors, locking miter joints, a template setup, and some shiplap so far. But the power feed is key even with manual feed tooling.
    Yes, I have 3 phase!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Crivello View Post
    Where are you located? Are you set on a new machine? Do you have three phase available?

    Iím asking because youíre likely to be able to get a into a really nice older euro machine at that price point.
    I'm in Richmond VA. I've looked around quite a bit and haven't really found a good machine near me. Has to be single phase unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Baldwin View Post
    I'm in Richmond VA. I've looked around quite a bit and haven't really found a good machine near me. Has to be single phase unfortunately.
    Josh, Iím in Richmond ,now retired . There used to be a place that sold used machines. Donít if there is one now. All the shops bought
    used stuff when I was working.

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    I have a BusyBee (Grizzly) # 1026 . A Powermatic #26 clone. Real shapers have 5hp motors,1 1/4" shafts and power feeds. Ones like mine are merely serious hobby machines. I re-machined the fence system, it needed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Edgerton View Post
    Looks nice but it is 3phase and 400 miles away from OP.

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    The Oliver is just one made in China with a Oliver tag glued on. I have no idea about quality and features. I would not be surprised if Grizzly does not sell the same one at lower prices including reasonable shipping.
    Only harry home shop here but I think a sliding table would be very nice. A tilting spindle seems nice but adds more to adjust and fall out of alinement.
    Very seriously look at used. Not much to go wrong on a shaper unless you need cnc control on spindle height.
    Bill D.

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    To get quality, 5hp up, you need to use a VFD and get a three phase machine. Or you can swap out the motor for about the same cost. A vfd will give you soft start and braking.
    Bill D.
    just to show cost range with feeder. No way I would use a 7.5hp without a feeder
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/35550166833...ampid%3APL_CLK

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/29628991000...temCondition=4
    Last edited by Bill Dufour; 03-23-2024 at 10:53 PM.

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    To get quality 5hp up you need to use a VFD and get a three phase machine. On ebay today a 7.5 Hp VFD is around $200. Or you can swap out the motor for a used one at about double the cost. A vfd will give you soft start and braking.
    The Oliver and Laguna look identical to me except for switch placement
    Bill D.
    Last edited by Bill Dufour; 03-23-2024 at 10:51 PM.

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