I have a 1/2" sorby detail gouge that I have ground at 40° (also removed the heel) and it works ok now that I moved away from the jigs and started sharpening by hand... but it's still just an ok tool. I now have a d-way detail spindle gouge (1/2") on the way and was thinking about trying a 25° bevel when it suddenly occurred to me that I shouldn't just trow arbitrary angles at the work and ask some folks that know better. I've watched and read a ton but there's so much that's either left vague or that contradicts the last thing I read. Thanks for the guidance.