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    Maybe I missed it, has the OP actually confirmed what exact saw is in question other than to say "A Rigid jobsite saw"? If not, everything posted is idle speculation at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Holcombe View Post
    Route the wiring through a rotary disconnect and give yourself some redundancy in this aspect of safety.
    Brian, can you elaborate on your suggestion?
    Like an example of s rotary disconnect, where you have it mounted, etc.
    Pics will help.
    I have an older Dewalt jobsite saw (7480) that has the non magnetic paddle switch, but I'd still like to add some safety redundancy.
    Also whatever you can explain and show pics of, I'm sure will help Diane.
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    I usually build out an electrical box on every machine unless they already have one. I’ve attached a few examples, the brands I have used are Siemens and Eaton Moeller. They’re either round or they have a toggle that rotates.

    I will typically also put e-stops in one or multiple locations on a machine depending on where I usually work from. If one were to have a situation in which you’re pulled into the feed of a machine it’s good to have immediate access to an e-stop so that you can increase your chance of survival.

    While we’re on that subject, all three locations I commonly work in are stocked with a CAT tourniquet in addition to a basic first aide kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Holcombe View Post
    I usually build out an electrical box on every machine unless they already have one. I’ve attached a few examples, the brands I have used are Siemens and Eaton Moeller. They’re either round or they have a toggle that rotates.

    I will typically also put e-stops in one or multiple locations on a machine depending on where I usually work from. If one were to have a situation in which you’re pulled into the feed of a machine it’s good to have immediate access to an e-stop so that you can increase your chance of survival.

    While we’re on that subject, all three locations I commonly work in are stocked with a CAT tourniquet in addition to a basic first aide kit.

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    Thank you much, Brian.
    And totally off topic, but....what is the make/model (and age!) of that Drill Press?
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    You’re welcome! That’s a modified auto tapping machine that I use as a drill press. The manufacturer is Kira (Japan), it was likely made in the 80’s but they still produce them.

    I bought and modified it because I got a great deal on it and I love Japanese machines. It’s one of the heaviest and most precisely made presses of that stature that I have seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Holcombe View Post
    You’re welcome! That’s a modified auto tapping machine that I use as a drill press. The manufacturer is Kira (Japan), it was likely made in the 80’s but they still produce them.

    I bought and modified it because I got a great deal on it and I love Japanese machines. It’s one of the heaviest and most precisely made presses of that stature that I have seen.
    Really, really nice. Thanks
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    very nice. I prefer the rotaries that allow for lockout/tagout, but that's a habit. Now I'm going to probably end up adding disconnects at my stationary tools. Thanks Brian for the reminder!

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    To meet code the school shop added a contactor to the work bench power supply. Used for small drills grinders etc. Turn on in the morning. turn off at the end of the day. If the power drops for a second or so it disconnects and all power tools are dead until the benches main power switch GO button is pressed.
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    Electrical devices aside, you have some nice work going on there!!
    I don't know what you're making, but I'd really to see it when it's done. It looks exacting.

    For the OP though.
    If you have simple ON/OFF, magnetic switch, it should not be humming.
    My shaper hums when not in use because there is an interposing relay and contractor in the power box. Delta made their shapers to run on 3 phase power, and that same box is on all of the machines of my vintage, even though, I have two pole, single phase 240 going to it only.
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    Thanks, Mike!
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    Hello All, just an update. Ridgid did get back to me and asked me to destroy the saw and they are sending me a new saw. I have to say, it was the right thing to do....but I am still impressed, considering how many companies do not back their products these days.

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    That is impressive these days and also a good solution rather than the try this part, try that part method. Glad you had a decent and safe(!) outcome for the problem.

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    Good for you!

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    Good for you. I go one step further and unplug. Controlling hazardous energy means to physically incapacitate the tool. I.E. a crush proof block under a hydraulic press after removing the tool from its power source. That’s why we stick a block under a jacked up car. If the Jack fails, the block will physically stop the car from crushing you. I wish more people would take these precautions.

    I definitely wouldn’t use the saw until the issue was figured out and solidly fixed.

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    Good that they are willing to replace the defective machine, not so good that they don't want you to return the saw at their expense so they can figure out what went wrong and prevent it from happening again.

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