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    Finish advice please - large shelving project

    I am building a very large shelving project for retail wine display. Effectively it's 40 lineal feet of 18" deep by 72" tall shelving made from 18mm baltic birch plywood. I have a tight deadline and I am looking for a finish that would be easy to apply and reasonably fast-drying. Color is preferred to be a generic brown/walnut stain. I would like to spray and be done in one or two applications. Cost is not an object, although I don't really have the option of third-party finishing. Also, these shelves are to be assembled on-site, flat-pack ("Ikea") style, so everything will need to be prefinished and I might have to do some minor touchups. Overall surface to be stained/finished is about 1400 square feet.

    Any recommendations? Looking at Rubio Monocoat but holy crap it will take me forever to hand-apply that much product.
    Jon Endres
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    I wouldnt do a waxed oil. You can hand apply a stain and use something like arm r seal for a top coat pretty quickly.

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    I've been going down the finish rabbit hole and I am interested to see how either milesi or renner do with stains and clear coats (1k because I'm afraid of using a hardener for now)

    But those brands seem to get a lot of positive reviews. I'm about to use a renner 1k for a paint finish.

    Not sure if you have access to solvent based from milesi.
    Yes, I have 3 phase!

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    Any experience with General Finishes water-based dye stains and a water-based flat topcoat? Looks like it could all be sprayed and dry time is pretty quick. I never seem to give myself enough time to do finish work.

    I have used flat Arm-R-Seal with great success, I love the product but I am concerned about dry time and using oil over a water-based dye.

    Also, for obvious reasons I'm avoiding the big-box one-coat "stain+poly" garbage that Behr, Minwax and Varathane pitch.
    Jon Endres
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    Rubio would be a good choice because it's one coat and done. So even though you are applying it by hand, you only apply one coat.

    But if you want the traditional approach, I would use a spray only or spray then wipe stain, followed by two coats of clearcoat. GF's WB Dye Stain works really well, and their Enduro Clear Poly would be a good choice as the topcoat. On Baltic birch plywood the dye stain may not give you a dark enough color. If so, I'd use GF's WB Stain as a spray then wipe stain, and then the Enduro Clear Poly. In both cases, you are looking at a minimum of 3 coats, and possibly 5 if you need two coats of color and 3 coats of clearcoat.

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    There is no problem using ARS over a waterbased dye or pigment stain. Dry/cure time is long compared to any WB topcoat. If time is short, I would only use WB and/or Rubio or Osmo, etc.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Endres View Post
    Any recommendations? Looking at Rubio Monocoat but holy crap it will take me forever to hand-apply that much product.
    100% I would do Rubio. I'd also use my random orbit sander and 3M/Maroon pad and go nuts (or automotive buffer). Then wipe off with a lint-free towel. I just did two 8 foot floating shelves liceity split. Sure, not compared to your project, but prep was slower than actually applying the finish and it looks spectacular.

    Be sure to water-pop before hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Burnside View Post
    100% I would do Rubio. I'd also use my random orbit sander and 3M/Maroon pad and go nuts (or automotive buffer). Then wipe off with a lint-free towel. I just did two 8 foot floating shelves liceity split. Sure, not compared to your project, but prep was slower than actually applying the finish and it looks spectacular.

    Be sure to water-pop before hand.
    How does rubio work on BB Ply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Yetka View Post
    How does rubio work on BB Ply?
    RM and Osmo work just fine on BB ply. This is Osmo Polyox.


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