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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Fitzgerald View Post
    Nope! Trying to reterminate a fiber optic is a science, skill, art and a whole lot of luck!
    And (unless things have changed since I retired) some fairly pricey specialist tools.
    Yoga class makes me feel like a total stud, mostly because I'm about as flexible as a 2x4.
    "Design"? Possibly. "Intelligent"? Sure doesn't look like it from this angle.
    We used to be hunter gatherers. Now we're shopper borrowers.
    The three most important words in the English language: "Front Towards Enemy".
    The world makes a lot more sense when you remember that Butthead was the smart one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud View Post
    And (unless things have changed since I retired) some fairly pricey specialist tools.
    There is that too!
    Ken

    So much to learn, so little time.....

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    I live 10 miles east of Pullman, in Moscow. We lost our gas as well on Wednesday. Avista just restored it yesterday around 10:30 AM. They came in and re-lit the pilot on our water heater. The rest of our appliances don't have standing pilots so they just worked after the gas was restored.

    The Avista technicians said that there was an explosion when the farmer hit the main gas line. They did say that the farmer who hit the line survived and was okay. I asked if the farmer would liable for any of the costs incurred by Avista due to this outage, but they didn't give me an answer. I can only imagine how much this cost them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud View Post
    And (unless things have changed since I retired) some fairly pricey specialist tools.
    The tech told me that’s all changed now, too. I think it takes a special cutter, but there’s no need to shape and polish the end anymore—just stick it in the termination.
    Jason

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    If he called 811 before plowing he is not liable if it was not marked. I bet he was deep ripping to hit a high pressure main. California vineyards rip up to four feet deep.
    Bill D.
    Last edited by Bill Dufour; 11-20-2023 at 11:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dufour View Post
    If he called 811 before plowing he is not liable if it was not marked. I bet he was deep ripping to hit a high pressure main. California vineyards rip up to four feet deep.
    Bill D.
    According to the website for Avista when I looked it up they stated it was caused by an excavator. No mention of a farmer with a plow. This article I found today supports that cause.

    https://www.capitalpress.com/state/w...5ddc6a27d.html

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    Though still applies - if 811 was called first, and things not properly marked, it is the utilities fault and not the excavators.
    A neighbor used to work for a commercial electric company and sometimes had to deal with that - one of their jobs, they broke a water main, resulting in damage to a nearby house. They had properly called to get everything marked, but the water company was 4' off on their markings, so all the damage was the water companies responsibility.

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    When I built my woodworking shop, I had a completed empty shell built. I painted it and over the next 3 years, using cash, I did the electrical, the insulation and the finish carpentry. I had purchased a couple small electrical space heaters to keep it warm enough to work in there. The cost of heating with electrical heaters was enormous. For Christmas one year, my wife bought and paid for a 75,000 BTU natural gas furnace to be installed. The utility company T'd into the gas line where it enters our home and ran it to the side of the shop. The utility company also installed a wire in the trench and made it accessible at either end of the new gas line so one could us a "Beeper" to locate it physically. A few years later when I hired a company replace 45 years old galvanized domestic water line with copper, I informed the contractor about the gas line and showed him the "beeper" wire. He didn't use it. When one of his workers pierced the flexible gas line with a shovel digging an access hole, they had to contract with the utility company to repair the damage. It wasn't cheap. He lost money on installing my copper water line. He accepted responsibility for the damaged line and absorbed the cost.e
    Ken

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