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  1. #16
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    With the horsepower available on that Woodmaster, there is no way a single pass on a 3' wide panel will remove all the nasties. It will take a couple passes with the course grit before a single pass can be made with the second drum with finer grit. No idea how easily it will be to raise the second drum out of the way for the couple rough grit passes. I've never been impressed with Woodmaster machines. The engineering I saw on a planer/molder looked like it was made in a farm shop.

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    I had a Woodmaster 718(?) planer/molder/sander that was really lousy at everything it did, and severely underbuilt, but I have heard that a lot of people like the dedicated drum sanders they make. I've never seen one in person.

  3. #18
    have a pro drum wide belt sander and use the stroke instead. Thankful we had a stroke and no drum sanders in school.

    Have a woodmaster moulder lightest machine in the shop changed the head. It can run birdseye in one pass and cut clean. Yes its light and cheap. It has a gear motor feed so you can slow down and get a clean cut.

  4. #19
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    I have had a 25" dual drum unit for many years, running 100 grit on the first drum and 120 on the 2nd. Great machine for getting flat boards after gluing up panels. Don't use one as a substitute for a planer, as it can only take off a minute amount of material at a time. My machine is the Woodmaster (I think) but the same machine was sold under many names and sold by a number of companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Baldwin View Post
    I am also keeping an eye out for a used sander, but haven't found the right one yet.
    If you don't mind a drive to northeastern NC, I can tell you about a smoking deal on a SuperMax 19-38. I almost bought it, but I had already spent too much (CNC machine, lift table, drill press, etc.) and don't really need a new drum sander. PM me if you want me to send you the contact info of the owner.
    Ernie Hobbs
    Winston-Salem, NC

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    Like Bruce, I've owned a Woodmaster 26 inch for a few years and love it. Previously, I've had 2 different open ended drum sanders and always had problems with them, mostly the tracking adjustment of the feed belt. This is not an issue with the Woodmaster. I never had the need to use the open end feature so I went with the Woodmaster. Like Bruce said, it's built like a tank and very precise. They have a low cost option that allows you to have your work feed back in reverse so you don't have to keep transfering the board back to the input side. This works especially well for longer stock. Choose the size you need; you won't be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Baldwin View Post
    Hey Michael, how long have you had the 19-38? No problems at all? Have you used it near it's full width? Just wondering how well the sand then rotate then sand again works. Thanks
    I like it a lot, use it on almost every project. Iíve never had any problems. Just a little adjustment between drum and feed belt and tracking when I first got it, but otherwise awesome.

    Iíve used about 36Ē before. I was nervous about it but it went fine, I just didnít get too aggressive on passes.

  8. #23
    I bought a nice but dusty 37x2 Supermax to flip. I had it in the shop for about six months before I found a buyer. First of all it had twin 4" dust ports so you need a DC that can support that (6" mains). The second drum can be raised out of the way to just use the first drum or lowered in relation to the first primary drum. You can run the same grit on both, or stagger grits. Lower the second drum a little lower than the first to basically take two passes at once to remove material faster and double production. Sold it for 4.5x what I had in it to a shop that had a big 36" door order. Perfect for that.

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    I have a 37 or 38" Woodmaster and it's a workhorse. I have previously owned two different open end drum sanders and wouldn't want one again for my usage.

  10. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Coers View Post
    With the horsepower available on that Woodmaster, there is no way a single pass on a 3' wide panel will remove all the nasties. It will take a couple passes with the course grit before a single pass can be made with the second drum with finer grit. No idea how easily it will be to raise the second drum out of the way for the couple rough grit passes. I've never been impressed with Woodmaster machines. The engineering I saw on a planer/molder looked like it was made in a farm shop.
    Both drums sand at the same time. Multiple passes get you where you need to be.

    I had a Foley Belsaw planer molder. Pretty sure it's the same thing or a cousin of the Woodmaster. Yes, it looks like it was designed by a home mechanic, but it's rugged, reliable, and very durable. People run thousands of feet of molding through them, all day, every day. The one I bought used had been used so much that the cast iron bed had a dished groove worn into it. I did a home mechanic repair on it, Bondo to fill the groove and Formica for a new work surface and ran it pretty hard for 5 years before I sold it for more than I paid for it. I would have no concerns about durability.

    John

  11. #26
    I have a 25x2 Supermax 5hp. Nice machine and I enjoy it. Iíd personally pass on the 36Ē Supermax though.

    Donít think it has enough muscle with the same 5 hp motor as the 25x2. Youíll be going very slow on wider pieces. You really need a 7.5 - 10 hp motor on a 36Ē machine if you really want to use it daily.

    Not a fan of the cheaper belts on the SM and wish it had a better rubber conveyor belt.

    Otherwise is a solid machine.

    I bought my SM pre covid before they raised the price $1500 +. Probably wouldnít have bought my 25x2 for $4000. Paid 2600 new back in 2020.

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    Does the Supermax have the ability to reverse direction of the conveyor belt? It's a nice option on the Woodmaster. I would think 5hp is not a lot of power for two drums. I've never used anything but 120 grit on my Woodmaster. I've never needed anything courser so two drums wouldn't help me.

  13. #28
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    I have owned various sanders. The small Jet 16/32 overhang. Ok for smaller stuff. My favorite small sander was a Reliant 13" belt - then a Woodtek 13" belt sander. Those small belt sanders were surprisingly good.

    Have owned the grizzly dual drum for several years. As I recall I ran 80 grit on the first then 150 grit on the second drum. As mentioned you can raise and lower the drums independently of each other but I rarely did. You do need to get the hang of loading belts so they dont overlap or loosen. All of the drum sanders I have used the paper builds up more than the belts (just its nature I think, less total surface area)

    The dual drum sander takes a lot of floor space. And I agree with the concerns over too large being under powered, although I never stalled the motor on the grizzly (25" ?)

  14. #29
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    My General International double drum served me very well for several years. Sold it when the new shop I relocated to acquired a wide belt.

  15. #30
    Hey thanks for all the info everyone. I think I'm leaning towards the Supermax 19-38. Probably a lightly used one, but if that doesn't work out then I'll hope for a good black friday deal. The size is great and I can't seem to find anyone that doesn't like their 19-38. I'd prefer the 25-50, but we'll see what happens.

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