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    Woodworkers in Africa: 500,000 Years Ago

    Archeologists recently found wood beams in Zambia preserved in soil from around 500,000 years ago. To their surprise, the beams had notches crafted to make them fit together. No kidding, this is real. Pretty amazing stuff:

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/20/afric...scn/index.html

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    I read that yesterday, very cool. Also just shows how much we don't know

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    I don't know if that qualifies as a woodworker. Two things fitting together? Let me read the article...

    Oh wow! They found a large collection of tools there as well! Yup! That's proof of a legit woodworker! Crazy!

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    I'm confident if they keep digging they'll find a very early Grizzly 8" jointer.
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    It's also about 200,000 years prior to the known appearance of Homo sapiens! So it was probably people from a different, earlier, Homo genus doing the work. Or, H. sap appeared earlier than we thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger wiegand View Post
    It's also about 200,000 years prior to the known appearance of Homo sapiens! So it was probably people from a different, earlier, Homo genus doing the work. Or, H. sap appeared earlier than we thought.
    As I recall that was mentioned in the article. Nobody thought the people of that era were sophisticated enough to make such tools and to do "woodworking".

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    This well was the oldest, the new discovery blows it away by millennia
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/04/europ...scn/index.html

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    Just think what the could have done with pocket screws!

    Cool article. Thanks for sharing.

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    Blows away my earlier mention of Egyptian wood working examples.
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    I donít believe it.
    Wood doesnít last that long maybe 5k no way 500k.
    The comment about human species not able to craft stuff. Why would they say that because they didnít go to college?
    Humans are gifted with the ability to craft and defend themselves. Early man would be making spears.
    Scientist will say anything to get funding
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    And there's the skeptic. Please read the article. It explains how the wood survived. The people who crafted those wooden beams pre-dated homosapians. Nobody had ever found any evidence of such skills going back that far. The scientists were already funded to do that dig. And no, real scientists don't say anything to get funding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Germain View Post
    And there's the skeptic. Please read the article. It explains how the wood survived. The people who crafted those wooden beams pre-dated homosapians. Nobody had ever found any evidence of such skills going back that far. The scientists were already funded to do that dig. And no, real scientists don't say anything to get funding.
    I did read the article, just because it’s written doesn’t make it true.
    I don’t believe wood fibers can hold together in any kind of shape that long no way. It’s natural and meant to decompose.
    The only thing that could possibly last that long is a bag full of cheese burgers from Mc Donalds.
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    Ever been to the petrified forest? Probably something similar here - the wood was mineralized, so what remains is no longer organic. Nevertheless, the shapes as the wood once was have been preserved.

    And I will echo: no real scientists don't "say anything" to get funded. After all, if they did, who would believe them enough to invest in them?
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    As a practicing scientist who asks for money often, I can affirm Jim’s statement. There are rare exceptions but I have seen folks go down in flames for trying to spin things.

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    After close examination of the wood I know what kind it is/was.


    It is old growth lumber.

    Grandpa caveman probably complained that the wood was too young and back in his day the wood was better and easier to work.
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