Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 21

Thread: Bore into end grain

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    Lafayette, CA
    Posts
    844

    Bore into end grain

    Here’s one that probably makes the rounds here from time to time.

    To make a second guitar stand, I need to bore two 1/4” holes, only about 3/4” deep or so, into the end grain of a (42” long) 5/4 bubinga board — the vertical arm of the base. Into these will go threaded inserts for attaching the stand’s base to its vertical arm from below.

    The last time I used mahogany and it was a struggle. I’d like to use the drill press if possible. The drill press table rotates, but it doesn’t swing out of the way of the quill and bit. The head does not swivel. And even with a full-height floor mounted drill press, the table won’t go down far enough to mount the arm vertically. So, I could not figure out how to use a sturdy drill press setup.

    I wound up using a Forstner bit in a corded hand drill, with the board propped up and clamped down on the bench and the drill supported to come horizontally into the board. I didn’t like the imprecision of this setup. The end grain still gave me more resistance than I’d like, and I was barely able to push the drill in a straight line. I hesitate to return to that setup with bubinga, which I think is a harder species.

    I’m now wishing I could use my plunge router and my mortise jig (Young Je, YouTube — you know the one?). I suspect this would make the holes easy to bore. But my bench (and its vise) isn’t 42” off the floor.

    But am I missing some drill press wisdom? Is there a way to clamp a 7/8”x5”x42” board endwise onto a drill press?

    Or something else I haven’t considered?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Central MA
    Posts
    1,588
    A dowel jig with a sharp brad point bit would be easy and accurate.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Michiana
    Posts
    3,071
    Bore a 1/4" hole through a block about 2" thick on your drill press. clamp this on the end of your bubinga board and use it with a hand drill like a big doweling jig. The pilot hole keeps things square:

    https://paulsellers.com/2022/06/maki...ill-bit-guide/

    Or buy a commercial drill guide block:

    Sharp solves all manner of problems.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Somewhere in the Land of Lincoln
    Posts
    2,563
    Same basic idea as has already been suggested. I have a dowel jig similar to the one linked. Mine doesn't have inserts as I recall but handles large(thick) stock. As was said with a sharp brad point drill bit it should be a breeze.

    https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-America...794343&sr=8-18

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Posts
    7,018
    I'd probably use my Drill Guide for this type of thing.
    Lay it flat so it can be drill horizontally and clamp enough wood on both sides of the board so you have a good flat surface wide enough to support the guide.

    You could always get all sorts of crazy and use the Woodpecker's version.
    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." - John Lennon

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    Lafayette, CA
    Posts
    844
    Thanks, folks. You’ve given my creativity a nudge.

    I like the idea of the Kreg drill guide, but I wonder how it will seat on a 0.835” thick board. I think I’ll merge that concept with Rob’s first suggestion and make a block of my own with a generous 0.85” dado on the bottom. I have a block of maple or ash around here somewhere…

    Love the Creek. I’ve been away for some time as my hobby time has turned to guitar, and the arrival of grandchildren has slowly taken over my garage shop space!

    Wish me luck with clearing things out and building the stand!

  7. #7
    Use two pieces of plywood, fastened at right angles to each other. On one, bore a hole for router bushing, and use other leg to clamp jig to board. Use plunge router with up cut spiral bit and bore holes.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2020
    Location
    Oakland, CA
    Posts
    257
    Just clamp boards on either side to give you the width you need for a solid base

  9. #9
    Okay, here's another suggestion. I recently extended a walking stick by six inches. I needed to fashion a round piece of wood with a bore for a 1/4" threaded rod. I knew that I couldn't drill a 6" hole that would stay centered in the wood. Instead, I took the wood for the extention, split it in half and made two 1/8" x 6" dados in it and glued it together. I installed the extension and then shaped it to match the rest of the stick. Anyway, it's a way for you to create a custom drilling guide.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    Lafayette, CA
    Posts
    844
    The Maker spirit is alive and well in this thread.

  11. #11
    You don't have to make a dado- just cut an inch or so off the board (assuming it's long enough), then drill guide holes in that on your drill press. Set it back on your "actual use" piece, then clamp it in place with a couple pieces around the wide sides of the board. By using the actual board as your guide piece, you know it's exactly the same thickness so you don't have to worry about getting the dado perfectly centered in another piece of stock.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Minot, ND
    Posts
    561
    I'd use on of the Big Gator drill guides,https://www.amazon.com/Big-Gator-Too...NsaWNrPXRydWU=
    Just shim it level and, as advised earlier, use a sharp brad point bit.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    6,424
    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Luter View Post
    Bore a 1/4" hole through a block about 2" thick on your drill press
    HAH! Dead on target

    I have 4 blocks about 6" long and 1-1/2" or 2" square. Used for other tasks as main purpose. BUT - each of them has several holes drilled through, with diameter scribbled beside them.

    I have a Nova Voyager drill press, and there is nothing it cannot do. But, sometimes the target is too unwieldy, sometimes the operator is too doggone lazy to leave the bench, sometimes its only one or two holes in a non-critical application. The blocks get used often.
    When I started woodworking, I didn't know squat. I have progressed in 30 years - now I do know squat.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    Lafayette, CA
    Posts
    844
    Quote Originally Posted by Bert McMahan View Post
    You don't have to make a dado- just cut an inch or so off the board (assuming it's long enough), then drill guide holes in that on your drill press. Set it back on your "actual use" piece, then clamp it in place with a couple pieces around the wide sides of the board. By using the actual board as your guide piece, you know it's exactly the same thickness so you don't have to worry about getting the dado perfectly centered in another piece of stock.
    I’ve been coming around to that, as it would ensure no face-to-face misalignment. I’ve also considering screwing guide block to the two outside boards to also eliminate side-to-side movement while I drill. I think that’s what I’ll settle on.

    Using a drilling guide (DIY or bought) means I can’t use a Forstner bit (shaft is narrower than cutting head), but my brad points are pretty sharp. Worst case, I buy a new bit for the end grain. With this method I’ll get a preview of how the bit does in the same end grain before I go into the work piece.

    To get the shank holes on the guide, I’ll hold the part in a Jorgensen hand screw and lock the hand screw down to the table.

    Thanks, everyone!

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Posts
    7,018
    Using a drilling guide (DIY or bought) means I can’t use a Forstner bit
    Not true!
    Using a Milescraft Drill Mate as I mentioned & linked to above (or the crazy expensive Woodpecker's) will allow you to use one.
    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." - John Lennon

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •