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    New Sled

    My current sleds have given me good service for many years. I just wanted a little more versatility for hold downs.

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    Glenn, that sled looks really skookum (west coast Canadian native word for “cool”).
    I’m going to save your pictures to my drive. I just built a prototype sled based on the King Woodworking multiuser sled, but it appears you went further, with the versatility shown in the Katz-Moses unit.
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    Old enough to wish I could do it again.

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    That is REALLY well thought out, Glenn! Bravo!
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    Thanks guys. Each sled seems to take the things that have worked well forward to the next. Adjustable fence, replaceable ZCI's for fence and base, stop block and clamping solutions, etc. The material was scrounged from a cabinet shop that had left some material out in the rain and gave it to me. There is some staining which I don't care about and some edge damage which got cut off. After a few years of use everything will blend right in
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    Here's what I don't understand: You have a solid fence front and back which guarantees that the left and right sides of the sled move as one unit. Why do you think you need two miter slot runners? Wood movement limits just how precisely the bar to slot fit can be if one is to ensure that the sled will not bind under varying humidity conditions.

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    Nicely done. I wondered how well those Microjig clamps worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Cameron View Post
    Here's what I don't understand: You have a solid fence front and back which guarantees that the left and right sides of the sled move as one unit. Why do you think you need two miter slot runners? Wood movement limits just how precisely the bar to slot fit can be if one is to ensure that the sled will not bind under varying humidity conditions.
    I will first say that living in this nice dry desert basin allows me to get away with things that wouldn't last one season in Nebraska . Single and double are both good. In my experience two runners are more stable under load than one. I know lots of folks use single runner sleds and I have no issue with that. I find two runners to be more reliable with larger loads. For lighter stuff I pretty much just use the miter gauge. Always more than one way to skin the cat.
    Last edited by glenn bradley; 07-13-2022 at 7:15 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Jones View Post
    Nicely done. I wondered how well those Microjig clamps worked.
    They are like any fixture I suppose. I have a lot of t-track and t-track items. I have a lot of MatchFit stuff as well. Most commercial fixtures are going to use t-track. The Micro Jig clamps let you slap a dovetail slot on just about anything so there's the advantage. I also have the bits to cut a t-slot in just about anything. When using ply you want to have a clamp that provides a mechanical compression force as opposed to a lifting force that may de-laminate the plywood. That being said I have used the same router fence faces made of MDF with a t-slot cut into them for over 15 years(???). I think both have a place in the shop.
    Last edited by glenn bradley; 07-13-2022 at 7:15 PM.
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    Great job Glenn,

    Very versatile and keeps the fingers away when handling smaller material.

    Your approach will surely inspire many others.

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    J.

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    That's really impressive, Glenn. Made on a CNC machine, or the old fashioned way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Lightstone View Post
    That's really impressive, Glenn. Made on a CNC machine, or the old fashioned way?
    LOL! The old fashioned way I'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn bradley View Post
    I will first say that living in this nice dry desert basin allows me to get away with things that wouldn't last one season in Nebraska . Single and double are both good. In my experience two runners are more stable under load than one. I know lots of folks use single runner sleds and I have no issue with that. I find two runners to be more reliable with larger loads. For lighter stuff I pretty much just use the miter gauge. Always more than one way to skin the cat.
    Glenn, I am sensitive to the 2 vs 1 runner situation because I had a sled bind up to the extent of being unusable due to humidity variation. This was in the San Fernando valley out of LA. It was a sled made of high quality plywood. When this happened I questioned why many woodworking magazines touted sleds with two runners, Compression of the runner material? Nah. I tested a piece of .75 x .75 poplar in a fancy machine we had at work. It took about 800 lbs to squeeze it down .001 thinner So, if two (identical) runners were attached say .001" farther apart than the miter slots, the inside edges of the miter bars would come into contact with the miter slots only under immense sideways forces. Highly unlikely. Similar situation exists if bars are mounted narrower than slot spacing.
    All that being said, if one has a pair of runners, each of which would be considered too narrow to use singly (ie too much slop), a pair of runners could be mounted with spacing that is intensionally greater or lesser than the miter slots, and this will reduce the amount of slop. This configuration has ZERO precision or stability advantage over a similarly fitted single runner. That is, if there is .005" of side to side play, it makes NO difference if the two guiding edges are .75" or 10" apart. (unless your runners are sponge rubber)

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    What is the spacing in inches of the dovetail squares?

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    Well done, Glenn!
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    So much to learn, so little time.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Davis View Post
    What is the spacing in inches of the dovetail squares?
    4" on center. This dimension was taken from a Micro Jig video. The guy doing the video seemed like he was very familiar with the Match Fit clamps so I followed his lead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Fitzgerald View Post
    Well done, Glenn!
    Thanks Ken. Different strokes I couldn't resist and so cannibalized the old sled and made it into a new narrow stock cross cut sled.
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    The only downside is the re0used hanging hole is off balance but, I think I can live with it
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