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    Long ranger multi gate alternative

    I love being able to pull open a blast gate and turn the DC on at the same time. PSI’s multigate system has worked well for a few years but the switch box went out the other day now it won’t turn off the DC (V3000). Reading the reviews on Amazon it appears this particular controller is a bit of a “hope you are lucky” product. I can’t seem to find any similar product that controls the DC via blast gate switches. Anybody know of an alternative to this unit that works like the Long Ranger?

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    Hi Bernie,

    Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I had been in touch with the folks at www.ecogate.com a while back. They have different offerings, you might contact them and see if they have something that fits your shop, though you may also get sticker shock.

    Ned

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie Kopfer View Post
    I love being able to pull open a blast gate and turn the DC on at the same time. PSIs multigate system has worked well for a few years but the switch box went out the other day now it wont turn off the DC (V3000). Reading the reviews on Amazon it appears this particular controller is a bit of a hope you are lucky product. I cant seem to find any similar product that controls the DC via blast gate switches. Anybody know of an alternative to this unit that works like the Long Ranger?

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    Ned you are right. At about $75 per replacement for the PSI Long Ranger Ill go that route for now. But I was hoping there was a better alternative.there are more reliable on/off controllers with remotes and that is the other alternative. As a matter of fact I found the Oneida control box and remote in the back of the DC closet. Might use it if I have to, but I know Ill misplace the r3mote!

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    Ive used the long ranger for years. I clip a fob to my shop vest and its no bother at all to turn on the dust collector.

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    Check out the various X10 systems... I put a microswitch on dust gates so when they close the X10 PF284 sends a signal on the power line and a heavy duty switch (do not know X10 number, it is in shop & not there now)... turns on / off dust collector.. been using it about 25 years now..
    go to www.X10.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie Kopfer View Post
    Ned you are right. At about $75 per replacement for the PSI Long Ranger I’ll go that route for now. But I was hoping there was a better alternative.there are more reliable on/off controllers with remotes and that is the other alternative. As a matter of fact I found the Oneida control box and remote in the back of the DC closet. Might use it if I have to, but I know I’ll misplace the r3mote!
    I've had the remote for my DC clipped to my shop apron for 5 years and it's never gotten lost, has always worked, and is still on its first battery. I conceived all manner of control schemes, but this one is so simple and is always at hand. I leave the blast gate open if I'm going to use the same machine again and it's a lot easier to turn off the blower with the remote than by closing a blast gate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Pratt View Post
    I've had the remote for my DC clipped to my shop apron for 5 years and it's never gotten lost, has always worked, and is still on its first battery. I conceived all manner of control schemes, but this one is so simple and is always at hand. I leave the blast gate open if I'm going to use the same machine again and it's a lot easier to turn off the blower with the remote than by closing a blast gate.
    Wearing a shop apron in the summer around here is unpleasant. And when turning ..
    BOught a new controller and all is well again. Noticed that Nowhere on the box or instruction sheet is any sort of warranty mentioned. Definitely at the mercy of whatever PSI decides if you have a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie Kopfer View Post
    Ned you are right. At about $75 per replacement for the PSI Long Ranger I’ll go that route for now. But I was hoping there was a better alternative.there are more reliable on/off controllers with remotes and that is the other alternative. As a matter of fact I found the Oneida control box and remote in the back of the DC closet. Might use it if I have to, but I know I’ll misplace the r3mote!
    If you're somewhat comfortable with electricty, people have "rolled their own". Buy a remote light controller, they run about $15 and up on Amazon. That light controller does not control the dust collector, it switches the coil on a contactor. Be sure the coil on the contactor is 120 volts, not 24 volts as it common. The remote is probably switching less than 1 amp rather than 10+ amps that the dust collector draws. The contactor can be as beefy as it needs to be. If the remote unit dies you just replace the remote. I'd think a decent quality motor contactor will last a very long time.

    Edit: I was looking at this contactor: https://www.amazon.com/Eaton-C25BNB2...ps%2C46&sr=8-8

    Here are the specs:

    Eaton C25BNB230A Compact Definite Purpose Contactor, 30A Inductive Current Rating, 2 Max HP Rating at 115V, 5 Max HP Rating at 230V, 120VAC Coil Voltage

    Insulation Voltage: 690V; Magnet Coil Class F, 155C
    Operating temperature: -25 to +70C; Coil Power VAC: 2.2kW
    Coil Terminals: Screw with Quick Connect; Coil Voltage AC Max: 120V
    Coil Voltage AC Min: 110V; Contacts: DPST-NO-DB
    Horsepower: 3hp; Line Voltage: 230V; CE Compliant, CSA certified, UL Recognized
    Coil power VAC: 2.2 kW. Doesn't that seem awfully high?

    I looked at other contactors and the coil on those draw 7-8 watts, about like a "60 watt" LED bulb. An inexpensive remote should switch that comfortably.
    Last edited by Curt Harms; 05-27-2022 at 8:13 AM.

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