Pretty cool that Felder is making smaller units.
FW 850 Classic
1 meter squared of space, 7.5HP. Almost no other details that I could see? I don't even see the width of the belt?
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Pretty cool that Felder is making smaller units.
FW 850 Classic
1 meter squared of space, 7.5HP. Almost no other details that I could see? I don't even see the width of the belt?
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That is way cool, I'd love to have a smaller wide belt. I just dont have room or electrical service for a huge machine. Be curious as to specs and pricing.
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850/25.4 = 33.5”ish
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You guys know as much as we do. Have only gotten the brief promo material so far. Nothing as far as pricing, availability, specs, etc. I've been out of town but somehow recall more info coming in April.
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They just release it today and US Felder reps are awaiting more information on it today, said my rep this morning. Love the marketing “space-saving miracle finds its place even in the smallest shop” ��
Last edited by Pat Rice; 03-07-2022 at 12:06 PM.
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We got the ballpark price in the sales meeting this morning. Won't share on the open forum but I can state that it is both attractive and competitive. This machine is still a true widebelt, not a drum sander, so keep that in mind when you are calling your Felder rep but based on how popular the Sandya Win was, I definitely see a market for folks who either can't swing a 37" WB or just don't need a machine that runs a full shift a day. Also, I was surprised to learn that it apparently has a combination head with an electro-pneumatic platen, which is a feature you don't even get on some of the $30K+ industrial widebelts. Still waiting on actual tech data from Austria.
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As soon as I saw the inflatable platen I was thinking maybe I should cancel the Sandya win that i put a deposit on. I have read that inflatable platens can be troublesome but thinking that was on older machines but if executed well they can have the finesse to sand pressed commercial veneer panels where a hard platen is iffy. Although nothing comes close to a segmented for veneer.
Does it have a steel or rubber contact roller?
One other thing, can we assume the 850 means it is 33.5 sanding width? Thats a nice size but guessing that means ordering none standard width belts (i think?) most are made to order anyways for length but wonder if that width is going to limit brand choice or do you know if all makers will do custom widths?
It looks like a lighter build than the year 2000 Sandy win I would want to see one in person and run it, any idea when one will be in a showroom? Bet the lead time will be a killer though… my price prediction is under 10k , 8500-&9500
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Last edited by Mark e Kessler; 03-07-2022 at 8:14 PM.
Erik Loza if you could be my salesman how would I get you to give me a quote?
To be clear - I'm a hobbyist and while I may could cough up the money - I'm not sure my wife would allow me to sleep in the house again.
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I was told it was less than that. The 950 is $25k. I believe it is more like $16k. My Felder salesman tells me the build quality is good but I have no experience with it to say. I did see it at IWF and the footprint was great for a small shop.
I guess we will see when someone picks one up!
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Thats what I had heard as well, but I was told a higher price at IWF (~$22k) and the floor model (at IWF) of the 950c was offered at $26.5k..
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As soon as I saw this thread this morning I called my salesman.
I like this line on the web:
The FELDER FW 850 classic wide belt sander makes it affordable to take that next step into professional woodworking and it is this high quality standard configuration that particularly impresses.
I hope we can find out soon more details because this is the perfect size to replace my dual drum sander.
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SCM already makes mini sander DMC SD10. takes 1.3m2, belt width 950mm.
Looking at the height of the unit, SCM being close to 1.7m high, SCM's belt MAYBE be longer than Felder, on SCM its 1525mm long, SCM's unit come with platen as well.
here is a link to SCM's sander with pricing. Knowing SCM in NZ I know I can probably get it under $20k NZD + tax. which is about $14k USD.
https://jmjwood.co.uk/products/scm-dmc-sd-10-sander
Last edited by Albert Lee; 03-08-2022 at 2:06 AM.
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Hi Albert, I don’t think that 850 comes even close to the build of the DMC, I wouldn’t put the 850 in a professional shop but the DMC i would without hesitation. They should have branded it a Hammer as it’s obviously value engineered it with things like the Chinese $90 DRO from Alibaba.. that said i think it will be a winner like the Hammer edge sander for hobbyists
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Looks like a nice machine for the hobbyist or part timer. Pricing will be key. 33" belt is a bit weird. Seems like they could have stretched the width to get it to that 36" mark. But 33" is more than enough with for most.
I have a 25 x 2 supermax drum sander now. A smaller footprint 36" widebelt would be ideal for me one day.
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