I know, sharpening, like there isn't enough discussion about it. I've been watching RC make those fluffy full width shaving with his 16000 grit stone on end grain. I go as far as 8000 and switch to the strop. I use Shapton 1000 and 8000 ceramics which are awesome, they don't need to be soaked and seem to hold flat pretty well. Would a 16000 really make that much difference? I would think it would make the strop redundant at the least.