I have a few gouges that my dad had and a few other from a set I picked up for cheap. They are craftsman gouges and some are in pretty new condition, at least they appear to be. However, they are not long enough to stick out of the wolverine sharnening fixture to allow the "normal" set up for spindle gouges. Is there a way to sharpen them without the fixture and make it repeatable? I hate to just toss them.