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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by derek labian View Post
    Ok, well I tried to lift it up, at least laying down, I guess I'm not one of those two "stout" men. I'm going to have to build that gantry.
    Interestingly, the back side of this saw is not flat, its angled. I assume that it's some kind of design ascetic however it makes it very hard to just "lift up" since it constantly wants to roll to one side and fall over. There is only one lifting hook. Luckily I unpacked the middle of the saw, found a damaged bell housing, and the manual. The manual simply says lift it by the off-center hook at the top of the frame. :/

  2. #32
    Ok, to wrap this thread up, we got it off the pallet. I built a temporary gantry anchored to the pallet, used a chain hoist to lift it part way until I ran out of slack on the hoist, and then pushed it the rest of the way. Thank god it comes with the motor and table dismounted.

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    Nice stout machine! Congrats on getting it on the floor and enjoy it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by derek labian View Post
    I would use my chain hoist, but every-time I need to lift something, I have to build a gantry..
    I set a couple 2x4s under the beam/s to the floor. I've pulled engines that way.
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    Curious ,what saw is that one ?

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    It looks nice, and very upright now. Good for you. I hope the rest of the setup process will be less arduous.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Zachary Hoyt View Post
    It looks nice, and very upright now. Good for you. I hope the rest of the setup process will be less arduous.
    sadly, looks like the bell housing on motor was damaged at factory.

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  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Kees View Post
    Curious ,what saw is that one ?
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    Last edited by derek labian; 12-23-2021 at 12:21 AM.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by derek labian View Post
    sadly, looks like the bell housing on motor was damaged at factory....
    This happened to us from time to time but kinda' surprising to see it in a machine that is delivered in a fully enclosed crate (the Centauros were all delivered in open-style framed pallets, so motor more exposed). I've never seen a bandsaw delivered with the motor not installed. Maybe the motor rolled around inside the crate during transport?

    Derek, as long as the actual motor housing and fan arbor shaft aren't damaged, you could remove the cover, tap out the dents, and then straighten out the fan by hand. Should work fine to get you by.

    Erik
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  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Loza View Post
    This happened to us from time to time but kinda' surprising to see it in a machine that is delivered in a fully enclosed crate (the Centauros were all delivered in open-style framed pallets, so motor more exposed). I've never seen a bandsaw delivered with the motor not installed. Maybe the motor rolled around inside the crate during transport?

    Derek, as long as the actual motor housing and fan arbor shaft aren't damaged, you could remove the cover, tap out the dents, and then straighten out the fan by hand. Should work fine to get you by.

    Erik
    The motor was in boxed and shrink wrapped in the gullet of the band saw securely, with no damage around it, packed in a box. I'm sure it happened at the factory before it was packed. SCM seems to agree, but no response beyond that.

    I had the same idea to remove the bell housing, however that plan went awry when I ran into this screw:

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    How the hell am I supposed to get that off?? The box appears to be part of the motor housing, i.e. not removable, or at least painted into a solid piece. I was able to bend it out enough to get the impeller to turn. Any more advise is appreciated.

  11. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by derek labian View Post
    ...How the hell am I supposed to get that off?? The box appears to be part of the motor housing, i.e. not removable, or at least painted into a solid piece. I was able to bend it out enough to get the impeller to turn. Any more advise is appreciated.
    Ouch! You ought to be able to remove that J-box/enclosure by removing the access cover. 100% that it just screws to the cast aluminum motor housing. They probably install the fan cover first, then that enclosure, then spray paint the whole thing. You might have to de-pin motor leads from the terminal black to get access to the screws but there surely is a way to remove that enclosure.

    Erik
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    I would through-bolt a lag eye in the laminated joist and use the chain hoist. I lifted a MM16 alone with a come-along and a lag hook screwed into a fir joist. I would not try to tilt that saw up with muscle alone, regardless of how many helpers I had.

  13. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Loza View Post
    Ouch! You ought to be able to remove that J-box/enclosure by removing the access cover. 100% that it just screws to the cast aluminum motor housing. They probably install the fan cover first, then that enclosure, then spray paint the whole thing. You might have to de-pin motor leads from the terminal black to get access to the screws but there surely is a way to remove that enclosure.

    Erik
    Thanks for confirming I can take it off. I'm sure SCM's crack team of specialists will get back to me any minute now with an update

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    Id send the Donk usually it speeds up service. Bikers are good as well.

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    I do not remember exactly but on my lathe motor there was a similar issue. I was able to rotate the fan duct like 60 degrees to align with some other holes that where more clear. Consider a short stud and nut instead of the original screw.
    Since you have to wire in the motor anyway consider a short cord on the motor and a twist lock plug into a short cord and twist lock female out of the switch gear. I can often find a matched set at habitat for under $20 since I do not care if they mate with anything else.
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