Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 37

Thread: Walnut Sapwood?

  1. #1

    Walnut Sapwood?

    Rt Stock Bolt.jpgRt Bolt Closeup.jpgIs this walnut sapwood? Weatherby says this is a walnut stock according to their records. I always thought walnut was dark but I read some articles that say dark walnut is heartwood white light walnut is sapwood. Just wanted a second opinion for people who are familiar with wood.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by David Westmoreland; 11-03-2021 at 8:22 PM. Reason: Closeups

  2. #2
    I seriously doubt it. Might be maple.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    SE PA - Central Bucks County
    Posts
    65,859
    Certainly possible based on the second photo. More close up views that show actual wood grain and pore structure would be helpful for folks wanting to assist.
    --

    The most expensive tool is the one you buy "cheaply" and often...

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    10,321
    Saw it. Walnut has a very distinct odor.

  5. #5
    My doubt is just based on “never seen that before” . What some call “incontrovertible science”.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Piedmont Triad, NC
    Posts
    793
    Weatherby Vanguard?
    "Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will acquire the skill to do difficult things easily.”
    Friedrich von Schiller (1759-1805)

    "Quality means doing it right when no one is looking."
    Henry Ford

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Posts
    7,018
    My Marlin 60 has a similar look to the first picture.
    Mine is Birch.

    I love the figure on the 2nd picture.


    Yeah - no way that's Birch - not after seeing the closeups.
    Last edited by Rich Engelhardt; 11-03-2021 at 9:33 PM.
    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." - John Lennon

  8. #8
    Mark XXII. 22 auto.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    NE Iowa
    Posts
    1,241
    If it's walnut, it looks more like English Walnut (Juglans regia), which can be pretty white mixed with that sort of figure, than North American Black Walnut (Juglans nigra​) sapwood.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    McKean, PA
    Posts
    15,637
    Blog Entries
    1
    It is possible that it is walnut. The brown heartwood will get very light if exposed to sunlight for a long period of time (several years). Sap wood in black walnut is almost white in color. It is possible that the stock was made from sapwood, which would still be walnut.
    sapwood.JPG
    Here are some photos of black walnut that show the color variations.
    walnut.JPG

    Note that English Walnut is much lighter in color than black walnut. Here is a photo of English walnut.
    english_walnut[1].jpg
    Last edited by Lee Schierer; 11-03-2021 at 9:50 PM.
    Lee Schierer
    USNA '71
    Go Navy!

    My advice, comments and suggestions are free, but it costs money to run the site. If you found something of value here please give a little something back by becoming a contributor! Please Contribute

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    Cambridge Vermont
    Posts
    2,289
    It looks like it the walnut may have been steamed to turn the sapwood brown. By doing so the dark heartwood lightens up while the sapwood will turn brown. Not sure about that first picture though.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    SE PA - Central Bucks County
    Posts
    65,859
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Zeller View Post
    It looks like it the walnut may have been steamed to turn the sapwood brown. By doing so the dark heartwood lightens up while the sapwood will turn brown. Not sure about that first picture though.
    I feel just the opposite. Lee's photos back up my perception. Walnut sapwood is very whitish and with an oil based finish...typical for that kind of item...it's going to get to be that creamy amber tone seen in the photos. In the second shot, there is darker wood near the top that is very reminiscent of a curlier walnut figure and color.
    --

    The most expensive tool is the one you buy "cheaply" and often...

  13. #13
    100% certain from first image that it is, indeed, walnut. Just has about 95% sapwood, but there's no mistaking that grain and pinch of darker heart included.
    IMHO, I would have burned it before burning labor forming it into a gunstock, as the confusion here attests - just don't use walnut sapwood, as the average consumer simply cannot understand the lighter cuts. Our brains are hardwired: Walnut = Dark Brown.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    22,512
    Blog Entries
    1
    I enjoy sapwood as a design element but rarely use it with walnut. Walnut lightens with time and the contrast can get lost without some effort with colorants to preserve the look. BTW, I think the stock looks great. I went out to the stacks to see if I had any walnut with sapwood in it. As luck would have it there was a piece at one end staring right at me. This is just skip planed but may help with the conversation.

    With flash.

    Walnut-sapwood (3).jpg . Walnut-sapwood (4).jpg

    Without flash.

    Walnut-sapwood (1).jpg . Walnut-sapwood (2).jpg
    "A hen is only an egg's way of making another egg".


    – Samuel Butler

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Doylestown, PA
    Posts
    7,569
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Roltgen View Post
    100% certain from first image that it is, indeed, walnut. Just has about 95% sapwood, but there's no mistaking that grain and pinch of darker heart included.
    IMHO, I would have burned it before burning labor forming it into a gunstock, as the confusion here attests - just don't use walnut sapwood, as the average consumer simply cannot understand the lighter cuts. Our brains are hardwired: Walnut = Dark Brown.
    I've never used it or even seen it that I remember but what about Butternut ('white walnut')? That would still probably be called Walnut.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •