Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: Help with bench support

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Grand Forks, ND
    Posts
    2,336

    Help with bench support

    I just finished the construction and install on these mudroom cabinets. We are putting a bench in between the 2 tall cabinets. My wife wants a live edge bench, so I purchased a piece of ash that will fit the bill. The material is 2" thick, 16" wide and is 66" long. Looking for some input on best way to mount it up? I'd like to keep the mounting clean so my thoughts are angle iron cleats on the wall and the cabinets? Anyone see an issue with this or have a better solution?

    mudroom2.jpgmudroom.jpg
    A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. My desk is a work station.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    WNY
    Posts
    9,715
    That'll work, Jeff. Wooden cleats would work well, too. If you want a really clean look cut dados on the back and ends of the slab and slide the seat over the cleats; secure from underneath with a couple of screws. Completely invisible.

    John

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Pueblo, CO
    Posts
    329
    I'd use 1x2 or 3 cleats and paint them to match the walls and cabinets. You could miter cut the front edges of the cleats on the cabinets to help the look.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    10,320
    2” thick? It only needs support at the ends. No need for cleats on the wall.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Peoria, IL
    Posts
    4,506
    Plus one with Jamie. You could park a pickup truck on a 2" thick slab of ash. Wood cleats on the cabinets and drop it on.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Grand Forks, ND
    Posts
    2,336
    Quote Originally Posted by John TenEyck View Post
    That'll work, Jeff. Wooden cleats would work well, too. If you want a really clean look cut dados on the back and ends of the slab and slide the seat over the cleats; secure from underneath with a couple of screws. Completely invisible.

    John
    I like that plan John, wont be hard to do at all.

    FWIW thanks again for the spray gun advice, that 6008 really lays out pigmented lacquer nicely!!
    A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. My desk is a work station.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    SE PA - Central Bucks County
    Posts
    65,850
    While the 2" slab may be fine without support on the wall, I'd personally install and angle iron cleat anyway to help reduce the risk of sagging over time. It could easily be hidden by machining out some shallow recesses on the bottom and back edge of the slab, too.
    --

    The most expensive tool is the one you buy "cheaply" and often...

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Peoria, IL
    Posts
    4,506
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Becker View Post
    While the 2" slab may be fine without support on the wall, I'd personally install and angle iron cleat anyway to help reduce the risk of sagging over time. It could easily be hidden by machining out some shallow recesses on the bottom and back edge of the slab, too.
    Does that mean all these slab tables and river tables will be sagging soon? Sorry, can't agree with the extra support.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Columbus, OH
    Posts
    3,064
    Think I might be inclined to find a pair of cast iron bench legs and put a traditional bench in that space.
    Brian

    "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger or more complicated...it takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - E.F. Schumacher

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    SE PA - Central Bucks County
    Posts
    65,850
    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Coers View Post
    Does that mean all these slab tables and river tables will be sagging soon? Sorry, can't agree with the extra support.
    Consider that a bench that people sit on is a little different than a table and all those slab tables and river tables have support under them commensurate with the intended use. I'm not saying that the bench will fail without that support along the length. I'm just suggesting that I personally would support it for extra piece of mind just because it's a bench that folks will sit in. There's no harm in doing it...it's just a little more time and material.

    BTW, the same technique I mentioned for a hidden rear angle support could be used at the ends to eliminate the cleats that would otherwise be visible.
    --

    The most expensive tool is the one you buy "cheaply" and often...

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Peoria, IL
    Posts
    4,506
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Becker View Post
    Consider that a bench that people sit on is a little different than a table and all those slab tables and river tables have support under them commensurate with the intended use. I'm not saying that the bench will fail without that support along the length. I'm just suggesting that I personally would support it for extra piece of mind just because it's a bench that folks will sit in. There's no harm in doing it...it's just a little more time and material.

    BTW, the same technique I mentioned for a hidden rear angle support could be used at the ends to eliminate the cleats that would otherwise be visible.
    I've seen a ton of slab tables sitting on hair pin steel legs. Plus this bench in only 5'6" long. I checked Sagulator and a shelf like that loaded to 100 pounds per foot will sag .008" per foot. But to each his own.
    Last edited by Richard Coers; 10-01-2021 at 10:48 AM.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •