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    Questions: Laguna LT18 from 1999

    Hello All,

    I have a line on a ACM made Laguna LT18 for $800. Before everyone yells at me for not running over to pick it up with cash in hand....please hear me out.

    I called Laguna and asked if they can still source parts for a 1999 vintage LT18, the answer was a disappointing NO. The saw also has a 3 phase motor, which I would have to switch out. I forgot to ask Laguna if this is available and how much, I called and left a message and sent an email.

    My question is, taking into account the challenges above, would you still buy this saw?
    Bandsaws are pretty simple machines, is the lack of spare parts something that will really affect me?
    Are there any other parts sources for the older ACM made LT18?
    I know these were being retrofitted with 4.5 hp Baldor motors, any idea what model?

    Thanks.

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    I don’t know the other answers to your questions, but I would buy a VFD for phase conversion for $300 or less before trying to swap to a single phase motor.

    What condition is the saw in? Are there any broken or missing parts that you know of?
    Last edited by Phillip Mitchell; 05-10-2021 at 11:43 AM.
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    Unless there is already something broken, I wouldn't worry at all about parts.

    3-phase however, I personally would skip. I don't have it in my shop. You can often find 3-phase machines a lot cheaper than single because not everybody has access to it.

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    A 3hp VFD from a reputable company like factorymation costs $200. Just need 220v single phase, which Iím guessing you do if youíre looking at saws like this.

    Get it. Just because the manufacture doesnít sell parts doesnít mean you canít find them online at eBay or some thing. I donít think any of my vintage machinery still has parts available (okay, Northfield does).

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    About the only thing that might be specific to the machine might be the tires, which isn't much of an issue.
    Guides are interchangeable, look at Scott&Sargeant for parts,which are quite pricey, you might be able to source a USA distributor of some other brands which are Italian saws.
    Belts and bearings will be standard from bearing shop say 30 quid for both wheels, and a fiver for a belt in an agricultural spares place.
    I run my 24" machine off the household plug, with a VFD/inverter which would cost a bit over a hundred quid "all in"

    Make sure you see that it is a 'dual voltage' 3 phase motor that will run on 220volts, otherwise you need quite an expensive VFD,
    Not sure if the cheapies can step up the voltage to 380v or thereabouts.
    Have a look at the nameplate of the motor underneath, the D represents 'delta' low voltage configuration, you might see a triangle symbol either.

    You will need to make or buy a box for it, it isn't difficult to knock up one with some sheet metal.

    Two things to be aware of..
    No going the terminals after being unplugged, as these hold a charge for some time after.

    Make sure that you enter the motor commands correctly!, (parameters) as these relate to speed.
    If you buy an unknown brand cheap VFD/inverter, then that might take a bit of deciphering if no one else has documented it.
    Some have a fan that runs all the time, my Isacon drive which looks like the Huanyang is quiet.
    Make sure you know which one to get, or what you're actually getting! (get dimensions)

    Also some are for 380v IN, and not the 220 IN household voltage you need.


    See 220/240, and grab yourself a bargain
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    All the best
    Tom

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    I have this saw....or at least an Italian made LT18 from the same era. Great saw....I was resawing 4/4 cherry last week (4" thick) into 1/4" pieces and the 1-1/2" resaw blade I have cut it quickly and like butter. The dust collection on these saws is not 100%, but works. I seem to recall I paid $1500-$2000 for this saw when new in the 90's. $800 seems like a pretty good deal to me, though you have to consider the added cost of a VFD

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    I would buy it and then figure out how to make it work. (electrical). VFD's are one way, I have no experience with them. When I started to buy 3 phase stuff I set up a rotary phase converter and now have five machines running off of that. I have bought and sold so many stationary power tools that I no longer worry about "Parts availability".My experience has been most machines just need a good cleaning/adjustment. Beyond that problems are mostly bearings or electrical which can be sourced all over the place besides the specific manufacturer. That is a good solid Italian bandsaw don't think about it for long or someone else will own that thing. Good luck.

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    Maybe the obvious suggestion, but why not reach out to ACM? They made the saw to begin with. I would be very surprised if you cant source parts for a 21 year old italian bandsaw via some warehouse. Its like everyone on this forum moans and groans about delta and parts availability. Correct, you cannot call Delta's main number and have some kind soul walk you through the parts diagram and send you what you need. However, you can still get any part you need for a 1952 unisaw--its just not through delta. It is likely the same situation here. Laguna wont/cant help you, but you can help yourself.

    I second the VFD, and if nothing is currently broken, then you should be fine for life. bearings for the wheels and rubber tires are mostly off the shelf stuff. I have a laguna LT20 from 2004, and the rubber tires seem to be in great condition still. Im guessing your tires will be fine.

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