Sliding table saw

[Bill Carey]

This thread compelled my to visit the Felder and SCM websites. And I thought Thomas Lie-Neilsen ran a crack house! I need to save more money for retirement toys.

LOL. That's why I never go to those sites.

[Jim Becker]

This thread compelled my to visit the Felder and SCM websites. And I thought Thomas Lie-Neilsen ran a crack house! I need to save more money for retirement toys.

I'm very thankful that "pre-kids"....before we adopted the now adults, I had a few really good years and was able to invest in most of what I have now, knowing it would likely be much more difficult to do post-retirement. Of course, that now sets up the situation that when we downsize in the next few years, we have to find a property that I can fit the tools in, which is more expensive that the tools were. LOL

[Rod Sheridan]

This thread compelled my to visit the Felder and SCM websites. And I thought Thomas Lie-Neilsen ran a crack house! I need to save more money for retirement toys.

Felder and SCM aren't crack houses, they're the gateway drug suppliers. Look at Martin for comparison

regards, Rod.

[Jim Becker]

Felder and SCM aren't crack houses, they're the gateway drug suppliers. Look at Martin for comparison

regards, Rod.

True dat. True dat.

[Erik Loza]

My dad was a tradesman and later, an industrial arts teacher for much of his career. He would not have known what to do with a sliding table saw if I gave him one. He definitely would have been in the "Cabinet saw or die"-club. So, there is certainly a demographic of woodworker who are going to stick with what they learned on and nothing will change that, no matter what. I call it the McDonald-Starbuck Syndrome: You've been going there for years because you know exactly what you will be getting, exactly how much it costs, and there is no decision making required: 100% safe and comfortable. Of course, we all know there are better burgers out there than McDonalds and better coffee out there than Starbucks. But, a server asking you what type of aoli you want with your beet fries or suggesting you actually try espresso will probably turn some people off. I guess that makes a slider beef tartare if you're a cabinet saw person?

Erik

[Jim Becker]

That was a an entertaining analogy, Erik.

There's no universally "correct" answer here, of course...other than the "different strokes, to different folks" thing, which seems appropriate when discussing sliding table saws.

[Bruce King]

My dad was a tradesman and later, an industrial arts teacher for much of his career. He would not have known what to do with a sliding table saw if I gave him one. He definitely would have been in the "Cabinet saw or die"-club. So, there is certainly a demographic of woodworker who are going to stick with what they learned on and nothing will change that, no matter what. I call it the McDonald-Starbuck Syndrome: You've been going there for years because you know exactly what you will be getting, exactly how much it costs, and there is no decision making required: 100% safe and comfortable. Of course, we all know there are better burgers out there than McDonalds and better coffee out there than Starbucks. But, a server asking you what type of aoli you want with your beet fries or suggesting you actually try espresso will probably turn some people off. I guess that makes a slider beef tartare if you're a cabinet saw person?
Erik

Not at all, many just don’t see the value in buying a $20k tool when theirs already does everything they need. Dang, I have a 1600sf basement with three garage doors and I only use half for my shop, maybe I need to rethink this, LOL.

[Bill Carey]

My dad was a tradesman and later, an industrial arts teacher for much of his career. He would not have known what to do with a sliding table saw if I gave him one. He definitely would have been in the "Cabinet saw or die"-club. So, there is certainly a demographic of woodworker who are going to stick with what they learned on and nothing will change that, no matter what. I call it the McDonald-Starbuck Syndrome: You've been going there for years because you know exactly what you will be getting, exactly how much it costs, and there is no decision making required: 100% safe and comfortable. Of course, we all know there are better burgers out there than McDonalds and better coffee out there than Starbucks. But, a server asking you what type of aoli you want with your beet fries or suggesting you actually try espresso will probably turn some people off. I guess that makes a slider beef tartare if you're a cabinet saw person?

Erik

For some of us you should call it the "Mel's Downtown Diner" syndrome. A lot of us, I hope, would not got to starbucks or McD's on purpose, only if traveling or as a matter of convivence. Since I quit traveling 3 years ago I've been to McD's 3 or 4 times - the grandson likes it - and starbucks not at all. Mel's on the other hand - 2 or 3 times a week. Nothing quite like going out for pie and coffee where the pies are made by an actual baker. And there isn't a better burger or italian beef sandwich in the world than Mel's. Plus I can get there in the golf cart. So put me in the cabinet saw or die group. Aoli? Beet fries? Whachu talkin bout Willis?

[Ron Selzer]

I see the value and versatility in a sliding saw now, however if I would have known about them when I upgraded to the SawStop ICS 5hp 36". I still would have bought the ICS because it really is too big for the space I have now. Flat out no room for the sliding table saw. House is paid for and I am retirement age and still working. Figure in a few years I will decide if i want to work into my late 70's to 80's then I will have an addition built on with master bedroom for SWMBO and a 600sqft walkout basement shop addition for me. Then there will be a 8' sliding saw, A3-41, edge sander, stroke sander, floor stand mortise machine, and probably even a dedicated finish room.
Ron

[Erik Loza]

Not at all, many just don’t see the value in buying a $20k tool when theirs already does everything they need. Dang, I have a 1600sf basement with three garage doors and I only use half for my shop, maybe I need to rethink this, LOL.

Bruce, I can't disagree with you except to say that there is a large demographic that just wants a slider (or other type of Euro machine). Some folks buy a Harley, some folks buy a boat, some folks buy a fancy Euro woodworking machine. Since someone mentioned Martin, I can almost guarantee that there are more Martin machines in rich hobbyist shops than in pro shops here in the US.

Erik

[Jim Becker]

Not at all, many just don’t see the value in buying a $20k tool when theirs already does everything they need. Dang, I have a 1600sf basement with three garage doors and I only use half for my shop, maybe I need to rethink this, LOL.

You do need to rethink that...you're wasting perfectly good shop space with nothingness or for things that just don't count. (Unless it's being used by a spouse and then even your shop is fair game.

[Bruce King]

You do need to rethink that...you're wasting perfectly good shop space with nothingness or for things that just don't count. (Unless it's being used by a spouse and then even your shop is fair game.

It’s all pretty full, we are into biking, ebikes too, one car for road trips in there, she put a car cover on it. Also car repair shop and room for big projects.

[Jim Becker]

Well, there you go...your shop stays the same size. But maybe she'll let you "upgrade" some tools. LOL

[Dan Chouinard]

Not at all, many just don’t see the value in buying a $20k tool when theirs already does everything they need. Dang, I have a 1600sf basement with three garage doors and I only use half for my shop, maybe I need to rethink this, LOL.

We paid $3500 for a Martin slider. Built like a German tank.

[Dan Chouinard]

Bruce, I can't disagree with you except to say that there is a large demographic that just wants a slider (or other type of Euro machine). Some folks buy a Harley, some folks buy a boat, some folks buy a fancy Euro woodworking machine. Since someone mentioned Martin, I can almost guarantee that there are more Martin machines in rich hobbyist shops than in pro shops here in the US.

Erik

Most pro shops have?