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  1. 01-09-2021, 10:47 PM #1
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    1st Rust Hunt of the year, for me..

    Drove down the road to a place in Springfield, OH....out east of town....a small village called Harmony, OH. on US 40E....just before it meets up with I-70.....place called Heart of Ohio.

    Spent over 2 hours walking around..had a budget of under $100....which left out 99% of the handplanes I saw.....First item I "picked"...
    Rust Hunt 2021, miter saw.JPG
    Simpson-SEARS, Toronto, CAN. 4" x 26" Kromedge miter box saw...12 ppi.
    Rust Hunt 2021, saw logo.JPG
    Handle was a plywood like thing, but comfy, actually..
    Rust Hunt 2021, handle details.JPG

    And still very sharp....next up? These two showed up at one location....( more on that location in a bit...)
    Rust Hunt 2021, GP and Yankee.JPG
    North Bros/Stanley No. 130A, and a Goodell Pratt Company, Toolsmiths No. 185 ( with 7 tips!)
    have spent $40 or so...so far....There was a Stanley ( I think) #45...well, about half of one.....main body, 2 rods, one cutter, and the fence...and that was it...for the low price of $125....no sliding stock, no depth stops....nothing else....about like the #78 clones I kept seeing...for $45....

    Ok..next spot...after walking another mile or so..
    Rust Hunt 2021, Starrett Dividers.JPG
    6" ruler for scale...Stamped up near the spring..The S. Starrett Co. , Athol, MASS, USA....Tag said $4....I guess I could afford it.. Points are needle sharp...they had them wrapped up in 1/4 roll of tape....More walking Stanley No. 4-1/2....$225? Not today, sorry...last pick of the afternoon..
    Rust Hunt 2021, small gauge.JPG
    This little feller....has a blued blade, with a clipped corner Stanley box...and a SW below that...why "little"? When I put a "normal" sized bevel gauge beside it..
    Rust Hunt 2021, two sizes.JPG
    Instead of Rosewood, little guy used Walnut....locking arm is iron/steel, not brass....$8 too much?

    About tripped over a Stanley No. 7...was just sitting on the floor infront of the stall's shelves....then I looked at the price tag....$125...since I already had a Type 9, No. 7c at home..decided to leave this one where it lay....

    Long line at the cash registers....took a while...total came to.....$68...including tax.

    A stop at Harbor Freight on the way home....another $15...spent there....Even the sun came out for a while, today....still too dang cold.

    And THAT was my Road Trip Rust Hunt Day.....how was your's?
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  3. 01-10-2021, 9:02 PM #2
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    Steven,

    Looks like you had a good day.

    Me, still down with knee replacement recovery. Donna and I attended church on line, and then after dinner a nap. Good day for me, but nothing accomplished except rest.

    Stew
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  4. 01-14-2021, 12:52 PM #3
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    Heal up, but do not rush it.

    Had some leftover cash yesterday.....Dangerous, I know Decided to check out the 2 local to me stores....1st one....meh...nothing new had been added.The second one has 3 floors AND a basement....Basement is about all shopped out ( won't say by who ) usual stuff on the ground floor. usually, I do not wander up the stairs...thinking only books and such were ever out there....until...

    2 stalls first had a large outside caliper, and a small Coffin Smoother....Surprise. Thought I was doing good...until I glanced into the next stall........ouch! Shelf after shelf of vintage tools...block planes alone took up an entire shelf. Decided the Winchester No. 6c was a bit out of my budget ( $80!) and the Winchester No. 4 beside it wasn't either ( $65 because of the name on the lever cap?)

    On a shelf above the Block planes....was a shelf on bench planes....didn't reeeelly need another Jack plane ($12?) or a Handyman plane....but, there was a pair of Keen Kutter No. 4 planes....of course I picked the one that was $5 less ( have no idea why the extra $?)
    Antique Mall Finds, side view.JPG
    Maybe they thought the grooves in the sole..
    Antique Mall Finds, groovy.JPG
    Made it worth less.....
    Antique Mall Finds, front view.JPG
    Price tag said $40....I can handle that...but...on the way out of that stall....spotted a $4 "Egg beater" drill...
    Antique Mall Finds, drill , front.JPG
    Hmmmm, crank has a logo.....Millers Falls No. 77? Turn this over ( on the way to my hand, BTW)
    Antique Mall Finds, gear box.JPG
    Ok...better exit stage right.....before anything else happens to hop into my hands.....Counting Sales Tax? $47, and change.....

    That place is DANGEROUS! Both to my wallet, and to me when I get back home......

    Will start the rehab later today...film @ 2300 Hrs? IF anyone wants to see?
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  5. 01-14-2021, 2:07 PM #4
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    Have cleaned and flattened the iron for that plane.....had more bends than the old river road....Curves were straightened out flat....back was also flattened..
    Keen Kutter Rehab, clean and straightened.JPG
    Even managed to get that logo to come out a little better..
    Keen Kutter Rehab, logo on iron.JPG
    However...the chipbreaker will require a bit of ...actual work ( get your hands dirty sort of thing)
    Keen Kutter Rehab, chipbreaker face.JPG
    Rusty & Krusty at it's finest? Underside?
    Keen Kutter Rehab, chipbreaker details.JPG
    Work in progress?
    Will see how this turns out...not sure which plane maker made this No. 4c for E.C. Simmons...

    Edge of the iron has zero pits...iron is on the thicker side..about 1/8" even. looked like when the plane fell..it had landed right on the end of the iron...maybe.

    lever cap...has a "different way" of adding the flat spring..
    Keen Kutter Rehab, lever cap underside.JPG
    lateral looks almost like either a Union, or an Ohio Tool Co.
    Keen Kutter Rehab, frog details 3.JPG
    Knurling?
    Keen Kutter Rehab, frog details 2.JPG
    Frog seating is a bit different...
    Keen Kutter Rehab, base casting.JPG

    Might be worth the effort to rehab this plane.....
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  6. 01-14-2021, 6:57 PM #5
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    Have found out, this was made by Ohio Tool Co. Have a few more items cleaned up..
    Keen Kutter Rehab, next clean ups.JPG
    Have mated the edge of the chipbreaker to a plane iron...no gaps...
    Keen Kutter Rehab, all shined up.JPG
    Have since brought the frog to the shop....and cleaned it up....polished the RH thread wheel, too....man they used a LONG bolt for the lever cap bolt, and the threaded rod for the depth adjustor wheel...

    As for that Millers Falls drill....a No. 77 with an enclosed gear box...
    Vintage drill rehab, gear box.JPG
    Box was cleaned up..need to clean off some over-spray....gear will need buffed up a bit,,,,once the paint dries
    Vintage drill rehab, new paint, gear.JPG
    Crank's wood handle was loose...set up an anvil..
    Vintage drill rehab, rivet tightened.JPG
    And peened the handle down a little tighter...didn't want it too tight...it does have to rotate...
    Vintage drill rehab, waiting around.JPG
    Waiting around on paint to cure....while I go and wash me hands up..
    Working hands, left.JPGWorking hands, right.JPG

    yep, these be working hands....

    Stay tuned...( Wondering IF that plane's sole needs lapped? probably..not.)
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  7. 01-14-2021, 7:04 PM #6
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    Well I surely hope you will rehab those things, otherwise you wasted your money! :-)

    Lots of good stuff.
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  8. 01-15-2021, 11:23 AM #7
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    A fun project would be make a curly maple handle for it with bright saw nuts.
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    Keen Kutter No. 4 planes....of course I picked the one that was $5 less ( have no idea why the extra $?)
    The one in your image is a KK 4. If the other was a K 4 it was a Bedrock design instead of the Bailey design. Well worth the extra $5 to some.

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    All cleaned up...and ready for some lumber ( when I get some).
    Keen Kutter Rehab, logo on iron.JPG
    1/8" thick iron ( made by Ohio Tool Co.)
    Keen Kutter Rehab, port side.JPG
    and..
    Keen Kutter Rehab, stern view.JPG
    Stern view....bow-on view?
    Keen Kutter Rehab, bow view.JPG

    As for the eggbeater drill/
    Vintage drill rehab, gear done.JPG
    and..
    Vintage drill rehab, chuck details.JPG
    Hole apparently is to oil the gear in that end...chuck has 3 jaws, with intact springs...
    Vintage drill rehab, crank cleaned.JPG
    Millers Falls No. 77...before the move to Greenfield, MASS.
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    A couple of things about that KK 4c....besides that was made by Ohio Tool Co. before 1920....
    Keen Kutter Rehab, base casting.JPG
    Same size as a Stanley No. 4....frog seat is very different, Frog bolts are a bit shorter than a Stanley's...

    Normal sized for a No. 4....yet the tote has a toe bolt?
    Keen Kutter Rehab, frog details 1.JPG
    This is the underside of the frog....The depth adjuster is right hand thread.
    Keen Kutter Rehab, frog details 3.JPG
    3 line knurling. Lateral has the twisted end, shaped as a tear-drop.
    Keen Kutter Rehab, frog face.JPG
    Lateral has the round washer. Nice solid, flat face for the iron to rest on.
    Keen Kutter Rehab, lever cap underside.JPG
    They machined a space for the lever cap's spring to sit in..
    Keen Kutter Rehab, tote details.JPG
    Tote: horn is worn where the index finger would be. Tote bolt is...different. Has the bolt hole in the toe, that matches a hole in the base casting...yet this is just a No. 4 sized plane...crack seems to be a well repaired older one....

    Will be taking this down to the shop, for a test drive.....have to try out the NEW Bench Dogs, too..
    New bench dogs.JPG
    Seems Kreg came out with something I'd actually use.....

    Stay tuned

    BTW: those 2 Winchester planes at that mall....are both Bedrock made by Stanley....$145 for the pair.....
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    And....we have shavings...
    Keen Kutter Rehab, test 1.JPG
    First try to set the depth....something wasn't quite right.....turned out I didn't have the chipbreaker lock into place....it was moving...but, not the iron....got that fixed, gave the iron a little more hone...
    Keen Kutter Rehab, getting there.JPG
    Almost there....double checked it against a Stanley of the same age..
    Keen Kutter Rehab, pair of 4s.JPG
    Stanley #4, Type 10.....

    Kind of hard to stop....when testing for shavings...
    Keen Kutter Rehab, hard to stop.JPG
    Even with very UGLY Pine....
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    Doing alrite Steve?
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    At least I am back home.....4 days to get things fixed up. BP Meds vs Bloodthinner Meds.....one of the 2 caused a small bleeder to happen.....similar to a small stroke.....they changed the meds a bit...way too many scans.....now I get to go see a few more Doctors......and a few more tests....doing better than I was last Friday...
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    Quote Originally Posted by steven c newman View Post
    At least I am back home.....4 days to get things fixed up. BP Meds vs Bloodthinner Meds.....one of the 2 caused a small bleeder to happen.....similar to a small stroke.....they changed the meds a bit...way too many scans.....now I get to go see a few more Doctors......and a few more tests....doing better than I was last Friday...
    Hang in there! Hope that you get things stabilized. I missed reading your posts, but never would have guessed that you were taking a ”vacation" at the hospital. One day at a time - for the next 20 years. Best wishes.
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    Get well soon
    One day this virus crap will settle down and I want to meet up and go tool hunting with you
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