Santa brought me some new Shapton stones. if I listen to Rob Cosman, it seems like I just have to buy their stone holder....for more $$$. Please tell me why I can't (or shouldn't) just epoxy my Shapton stone to a nice piece of granite counter top drop off or a thick, solid piece of hardwood. Do I really need a $100 plus dollar stone holder to get the best out of the Shapton stones? Always good dialog here....I would like your opinions. Thanks in advance