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    Best drill bit for horizontl boring

    I've just started making pepper mills and getting along pretty good. One of the steps is horizontal boring (on lathe) the hole in the wood stock - 1 1/16" diameter. Some U-tube videos use a forstner bit, others a twist bit. I bought a very good twist bit at my local machine supply store ($81) and have been getting along pretty good except it heats up in the harder woods, like on oak. What do you experienced turners use and recommend? Thanks.

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    I use mostly forstner bits and for a one inch hole an auger bit. Jobber bits tend to drift more for me anyway. Slow down and clear bit often. Harder woods take longer. Get a stool and take your time. Depending on the type of kit you're using you can get a special bit for Crush Grind kits that cut both bottom holes at the same time. https://www.amazon.com/Woodturning-M.../dp/B07KFPZVBQ Endless design options and they make great gifts.

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    Dave,

    Thanks, I was wondering about using an auger bit. Yes, I should likely slow down a bit. We gave numerous for Christmas and received a lot of nice comments. Looks like i need to clean my twist bit as the heat buildup has resulted in some buildup on the bit. Any good suggestions on cleaning agents?

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    Try Heavy duty oven cleaner.

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    At the suggestion of folks here I got some carbide tipped Forstner bits. Freud and Famag make them. They are expensive but have done much better for me in this application than my cheaper HSS bits. Still need to go slow and clear chips often. For cleaning bits I have good results with CMT blade and bit cleaner. It is also pricey for what it is, but a little bit goes a long way and it is non toxic and very safe on those pricey bits.

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    With a twist bit, you have to remove the chips frequently, some thing like the depth of the diameter of the bit, so 1 inch bit, back the bit out about every 1 inch of depth. Slower speeds too. Generally drill half way through from one end, then reverse and come through the other end. They always seem to drift a bit. Our club did have a demo from a guy who made the pipes on a bag pipe, and he had a specialized bit for drilling all the way through, and it stayed on course, but don't remember the shape of the head.

    robo hippy

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    Thanks, Cliff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gaylin View Post
    At the suggestion of folks here I got some carbide tipped Forstner bits. Freud and Famag make them. They are expensive but have done much better for me in this application than my cheaper HSS bits. Still need to go slow and clear chips often. For cleaning bits I have good results with CMT blade and bit cleaner. It is also pricey for what it is, but a little bit goes a long way and it is non toxic and very safe on those pricey bits.

    Thanks, Dan.

    Bob O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed Gray View Post
    With a twist bit, you have to remove the chips frequently, some thing like the depth of the diameter of the bit, so 1 inch bit, back the bit out about every 1 inch of depth. Slower speeds too. Generally drill half way through from one end, then reverse and come through the other end. They always seem to drift a bit. Our club did have a demo from a guy who made the pipes on a bag pipe, and he had a specialized bit for drilling all the way through, and it stayed on course, but don't remember the shape of the head.

    robo hippy
    Thanks, Reed, yes, I've been clearing about every inch or so. Likely need to slow down a bit.

    Bob O

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    Bob -- I have used and can recommend both Boeshield's Blade and Bit Cleaner and Trend's Tool & Bit Cleaner. (Use one or the other, not both at the same time.) Other's have reported that Simple Green works, too. I haven't tried Simple Green, but I'm confident it would work. I've stuck with the specialty cleaners because they are specially formulated to remove the pitch and resin stuck to a blade or bit. Also, they are supposed to leave behind a coating that helps protect the tool from rust and corrosion. They also help prevent pitch and resin from sticking in the first place.
    David Walser
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOB OLINGER View Post
    I've just started making pepper mills and getting along pretty good. One of the steps is horizontal boring (on lathe) the hole in the wood stock - 1 1/16" diameter. Some U-tube videos use a forstner bit, others a twist bit. I bought a very good twist bit at my local machine supply store ($81) and have been getting along pretty good except it heats up in the harder woods, like on oak. What do you experienced turners use and recommend? Thanks.
    Unlike Forstner bits, large auger and twist drills can be very aggressive. I always use Forstner when drilling large diameter holes.

    I always use carbide Forstner bits when drilling holes that don't need a smooth surface. Although rougher, they can be much faster. I have several sets of carbide Forstners but for special sizes I buy relatively inexpensive individual bits from Amazon. The last one I bought like this was 2-1/16, not often found in the sets.

    One helpful thing I always do when drilling anything but a shallow hole is constantly direct a stream of compressed air into the back of the hole. This helps clear the chips as they are made, prevents jamming, and keeps the bits much cooler. I experimented with this about 15 years ago and have been doing it since. (I keep an air line hanging near the headstock of the lathe.)

    JKJ

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    I use forstner bits and find that as soon as the chips stop falling out of the hole I need to pull the bit back out to eject the bits. I don't have compressed air in my shop so I can't do like John does. I also use a fair bit of force when drilling. IMO if the cutting edge is not cutting it's in the early stages of burning the wood. Between this and the cups binding up in the hole are causing the wood and the bit to heat up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Walser View Post
    Bob -- I have used and can recommend both Boeshield's Blade and Bit Cleaner and Trend's Tool & Bit Cleaner. (Use one or the other, not both at the same time.) Other's have reported that Simple Green works, too. I haven't tried Simple Green, but I'm confident it would work. I've stuck with the specialty cleaners because they are specially formulated to remove the pitch and resin stuck to a blade or bit. Also, they are supposed to leave behind a coating that helps protect the tool from rust and corrosion. They also help prevent pitch and resin from sticking in the first place.

    Thanks, David.

    Bob O

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    Quote Originally Posted by John K Jordan View Post
    Unlike Forstner bits, large auger and twist drills can be very aggressive. I always use Forstner when drilling large diameter holes.

    I always use carbide Forstner bits when drilling holes that don't need a smooth surface. Although rougher, they can be much faster. I have several sets of carbide Forstners but for special sizes I buy relatively inexpensive individual bits from Amazon. The last one I bought like this was 2-1/16, not often found in the sets.

    One helpful thing I always do when drilling anything but a shallow hole is constantly direct a stream of compressed air into the back of the hole. This helps clear the chips as they are made, prevents jamming, and keeps the bits much cooler. I experimented with this about 15 years ago and have been doing it since. (I keep an air line hanging near the headstock of the lathe.)

    JKJ

    Thanks, John.

    Bob O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Zeller View Post
    I use forstner bits and find that as soon as the chips stop falling out of the hole I need to pull the bit back out to eject the bits. I don't have compressed air in my shop so I can't do like John does. I also use a fair bit of force when drilling. IMO if the cutting edge is not cutting it's in the early stages of burning the wood. Between this and the cups binding up in the hole are causing the wood and the bit to heat up.

    Thanks, Alex.

    Bob O.

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