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  1. #16
    When it comes to computer painting, remember these rules:

    Rule 1: Anything to be filled with paint must have an inner border, and an outer border.
    Rule 2: outer borders cannot be inner borders, and inner borders cannot be outer borders.

    A target is a good example, one with alternating red and yellow rings, with a red center dot.

    --So draw a circle for the red center, then 4 more circles around it for the rings.
    --now paint the center dot red.
    --now try to paint the next ring yellow. You'll find it can't be done... because you need to COMBINE the outer ring of the red dot and the next outer ring. But the red dot ring is in use. .

    the fix? You need an identical red dot outer ring- unpainted- to use as the inner ring for the yellow. ALL ring borders (except the outermost end ring) must be duplicated in order to be able to paint them...

    And guess what SmartFill does? It automatically inserts duplicate borders and adds the paint you chose.

    Try it Bert-- It actually worked for me! Draw 6 or 7 circles to make a target. Use the smartfill tool, pick red, and just click INSIDE the rings (not ON the rings) you want red. Do the same with yellow and paint the alternating colors. Voila, it'll work! And when you're done, you'll find you can click and drag each colored ring where you want. Go to wireframe mode, you'll notice every ring has it's own outlines, smartfill automatically created them.

    Now I just need to experiment some more my own self!
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    FOUR - CO2 lasers
    THREE- make that FOUR now - fiber lasers
    ONE - vinyl cutter
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  2. #17
    well thats easy but my sign I guess I went about it all the wrong way. Now I'll have to experiment some more thanks Kev.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kev Williams View Post
    When it comes to computer painting, remember these rules: target.jpg

    Rule 1: Anything to be filled with paint must have an inner border, and an outer border.
    Rule 2: outer borders cannot be inner borders, and inner borders cannot be outer borders.

    A target is a good example, one with alternating red and yellow rings, with a red center dot.

    --So draw a circle for the red center, then 4 more circles around it for the rings.
    --now paint the center dot red.
    --now try to paint the next ring yellow. You'll find it can't be done... because you need to COMBINE the outer ring of the red dot and the next outer ring. But the red dot ring is in use. .

    the fix? You need an identical red dot outer ring- unpainted- to use as the inner ring for the yellow. ALL ring borders (except the outermost end ring) must be duplicated in order to be able to paint them...

    And guess what SmartFill does? It automatically inserts duplicate borders and adds the paint you chose.

    Try it Bert-- It actually worked for me! Draw 6 or 7 circles to make a target. Use the smartfill tool, pick red, and just click INSIDE the rings (not ON the rings) you want red. Do the same with yellow and paint the alternating colors. Voila, it'll work! And when you're done, you'll find you can click and drag each colored ring where you want. Go to wireframe mode, you'll notice every ring has it's own outlines, smartfill automatically created them.

    Now I just need to experiment some more my own self!
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  3. #18
    Hi Bert,
    Great thing your doing, keep it up.

    Some versions of Corel won't smart fill Circles that have been used for Fit Text to path, so always have real circles separate from the Fit to Path arch for the text.

    I would always duplicate the circles and have the text use them, leaving the real circle for fills.

    Some inner character space would make text a lot more readable, and perfectly centered top to bottom in the circles by adjusting from path.

    See attached, edit as needed. Hope this helps,

    Cad

    Patriot Guard_X5.cdr

  4. #19
    Bert, thanks for serving/giving the way you do. We have patriot riders here. I often do memorial dog tags for their rides. Great group, great cause. Kudos to you.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bert Kemp View Post
    I'm a Tail Gunner for the Arizona Patriot Guard. I do Funeral Escorts for Fallen Hero's,( Active Duty, Veterans and First Responders) this is all Voluntary. I use my car at the rear of all funeral processions to protect the procession and all of our Motorcycle Road Guards. Right now I just have magnetic Funeral escort signs on the car doors. We've had some close calls with idiots running past me and almost hitting our Motor cycle guards. I was thinking a sign like this with a big gold star might be more effective in stopping people from passing . In Arizona and I think in most states its against the Law to pass a Funeral procession.
    We are Licensed by the state and have permits to run Red and Blue Lights and Sirens , but that doesn't stop people from passing.
    "It always looks darkest just before it goes completely black."

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  5. #20
    Thanks Cad
    Quote Originally Posted by Cad Jones View Post
    Hi Bert,
    Great thing your doing, keep it up.

    Some versions of Corel won't smart fill Circles that have been used for Fit Text to path, so always have real circles separate from the Fit to Path arch for the text.

    I would always duplicate the circles and have the text use them, leaving the real circle for fills.

    Some inner character space would make text a lot more readable, and perfectly centered top to bottom in the circles by adjusting from path.

    See attached, edit as needed. Hope this helps,

    Cad

    Patriot Guard_X5.cdr
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  6. #21
    Where have you been all my life, Kev?
    I've spent who-knows-how-many hours duplicating lines and combining so an area can be filled.
    Thanks!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Kev Williams View Post
    When it comes to computer painting, remember these rules:

    Rule 1: Anything to be filled with paint must have an inner border, and an outer border.
    Rule 2: outer borders cannot be inner borders, and inner borders cannot be outer borders.

    A target is a good example, one with alternating red and yellow rings, with a red center dot.

    --So draw a circle for the red center, then 4 more circles around it for the rings.
    --now paint the center dot red.
    --now try to paint the next ring yellow. You'll find it can't be done... because you need to COMBINE the outer ring of the red dot and the next outer ring. But the red dot ring is in use. .

    the fix? You need an identical red dot outer ring- unpainted- to use as the inner ring for the yellow. ALL ring borders (except the outermost end ring) must be duplicated in order to be able to paint them...

    And guess what SmartFill does? It automatically inserts duplicate borders and adds the paint you chose.

    Try it Bert-- It actually worked for me! Draw 6 or 7 circles to make a target. Use the smartfill tool, pick red, and just click INSIDE the rings (not ON the rings) you want red. Do the same with yellow and paint the alternating colors. Voila, it'll work! And when you're done, you'll find you can click and drag each colored ring where you want. Go to wireframe mode, you'll notice every ring has it's own outlines, smartfill automatically created them.

    Now I just need to experiment some more my own self!
    "It always looks darkest just before it goes completely black."

    Epilog Helix 50 Watt, Corel X6, Illustrator, Photoshop, Sherline Lathe, Wacom Bamboo tablet and plenty of chocolate.

  7. #22
    Hi Larry
    There a Program called the Missing In America Project or MIAP Maybe you could engrave some dog tags for the Urn's of these hero's also. Idone many over the years. Heres a link if you'd like to help https://www.miap.us/
    Contact your local Chapter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Allred View Post
    Bert, thanks for serving/giving the way you do. We have patriot riders here. I often do memorial dog tags for their rides. Great group, great cause. Kudos to you.
    If the Help and advice you received here was of any VALUE to you PLEASE! Become a Contributor
    Rabbit RL_XX_6040-60 watt Laser engraving/cutting machine Oh wait its a 3D Printer my bad LOL
    Lasercut 5.3
    CorelDraw X5

    10" Miter Saw with slide
    10" Table Saw
    8" bench mount 5 speed Drill Press
    Dremel, 3x21 Belt Sander


  8. #23
    Thanks! I'll check it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bert Kemp View Post
    Hi Larry
    There a Program called the Missing In America Project or MIAP Maybe you could engrave some dog tags for the Urn's of these hero's also. Idone many over the years. Heres a link if you'd like to help https://www.miap.us/
    Contact your local Chapter.
    "It always looks darkest just before it goes completely black."

    Epilog Helix 50 Watt, Corel X6, Illustrator, Photoshop, Sherline Lathe, Wacom Bamboo tablet and plenty of chocolate.

  9. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Bert Kemp View Post
    Thanks Cad
    Curved text, kinda like this little burn Bert.

    USMC.JPG

  10. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Allred View Post
    Where have you been all my life, Kev?
    I've spent who-knows-how-many hours duplicating lines and combining so an area can be filled.
    Thanks!!!
    Hey-- I just barely figured it out myself, and I've been using Corel for 18 years! I've always been so frustrated with some of Corel features- like Smartfill and powerclip- that I just find workarounds. I just barely noticed when I got the circles to smartfill that they now had borders!
    --Smartfill STILL does some weird stuff, like one accidental button click and EVERYTHING is BLUE!! or RED!!

    This is exactly why I like to help out, I keep accidentally learning things
    ========================================
    ELEVEN - rotary cutter tool machines
    FOUR - CO2 lasers
    THREE- make that FOUR now - fiber lasers
    ONE - vinyl cutter
    CASmate, Corel, Gravostyle


  11. #26
    Cool. Thanks for doing it!
    "It always looks darkest just before it goes completely black."

    Epilog Helix 50 Watt, Corel X6, Illustrator, Photoshop, Sherline Lathe, Wacom Bamboo tablet and plenty of chocolate.

  12. #27
    LOL Man I can't tell you how many of those I have engraved on leather key fobs all Branchs over 300 passed out to PGR members
    Quote Originally Posted by Cad Jones View Post
    Curved text, kinda like this little burn Bert.

    USMC.JPG
    If the Help and advice you received here was of any VALUE to you PLEASE! Become a Contributor
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    10" Table Saw
    8" bench mount 5 speed Drill Press
    Dremel, 3x21 Belt Sander


  13. #28

    So I just remembered -the hard way- another reason I don't use Smart Fill

    I thought "now that I know how this works, it'll be piece o' cake to send this lady some graphic samples of the plates she wants!

    I painted the text 'gold'-
    then SmartFilled the border 'gold',
    then SmartFilled the background black...

    sf.jpg

    -I only had about a dozen windows of un-saved jobs stacked up, only 2 were backed up...
    ========================================
    ELEVEN - rotary cutter tool machines
    FOUR - CO2 lasers
    THREE- make that FOUR now - fiber lasers
    ONE - vinyl cutter
    CASmate, Corel, Gravostyle


  14. #29
    Been there done that it sucks
    Quote Originally Posted by Kev Williams View Post
    I thought "now that I know how this works, it'll be piece o' cake to send this lady some graphic samples of the plates she wants!

    I painted the text 'gold'-
    then SmartFilled the border 'gold',
    then SmartFilled the background black...

    sf.jpg

    -I only had about a dozen windows of un-saved jobs stacked up, only 2 were backed up...
    If the Help and advice you received here was of any VALUE to you PLEASE! Become a Contributor
    Rabbit RL_XX_6040-60 watt Laser engraving/cutting machine Oh wait its a 3D Printer my bad LOL
    Lasercut 5.3
    CorelDraw X5

    10" Miter Saw with slide
    10" Table Saw
    8" bench mount 5 speed Drill Press
    Dremel, 3x21 Belt Sander


  15. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Kev Williams View Post
    -I only had about a dozen windows of un-saved jobs stacked up, only 2 were backed up...
    Be sure autosave is on and maybe reduce the time between autosaves...

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