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  • Delta Biesemeyer 78919B Type 2

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  • SawStop TGP2-FA

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Thread: Question for people with new Biesemeyer fences (How do you like it?)

  1. #1
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    Question for people with new Biesemeyer fences (How do you like it?)

    I've been rebuilding a 30 yr old Unisaw I purchased without a fence. I purchased a set of rails locally that I'm 99% certain are for the newer Biesemeyer fence that Delta manufactures. I am now at the point of looking for a fence to go with this saw. My other saw is a Sawstop and it's fence works perfectly on the Biesemeyer rails. I can buy a new fence from Sawstop for $195 delivered. My other option is to get the actual fence that is supposed to go with these rails. There is an ebay seller that sells the below fence for $210 delivered.

    78-919B_1.jpg

    For those of you with this newer style Biesemeyer fence, are you happy with it?



    The reason I ask is the reviews on Amazon are pretty poor but I trust the people here more than what I read over there.

    I will say I am very happy with my Sawstop fence but would prefer to keep the Unisaw and all of it's parts as accurate as possible. Plus the Biesemeyer will come with two support legs which will cost me about $10 to build plus my time. Ultimately I believe the cost is a wash between the two fences.

    Just looking for feedback as my research here shows there are a lot of Creeker's that bought these fences when Lowe's clearanced them out years ago.

    Thanks,
    Wes

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    I have owned both the Biesemeyer Commercial and the Saw Stop T-Glide. I will first confess a sentimental attachment to the Beis for the sake of transparency

    The Saw Stop (and others) are what people refer to as 'better-than-Bies' clones. This term used to irk me. Now that I have used the T-Glide for nearly as long as I used the Bies I feel I can comment on the "better-than" factor. The T-Glide is much easier to adjust although once adjusted you can pretty much take the Bies off the rails and drive nails with it, put it back on the saw and pick up where you left off . . . you see, there's that sentimentality kicking in

    The T-Glide faces are easily removable, you can swap them for t-track extrusions, add sac-fences and put the originals back on without much fuss. You have to pretty much destroy the Bies faces to remove them and then you are faced with attaching the replacements.

    In short, I like the T-Glide better. I am glad that the Bies lives on dad's saw now so I can go and visit.
    "The Danish government believes that if we train 5,000 designers, and produce
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    I bought a saw 20 years ago with a Biesmeyer fence & liked it a lot. the one complaint with it is that it was a major operation to replace the faces on the sides of the fence. I never had to do it thank goodness. But a few years later, as Delta integrated the fence into it's own manufacturing stream, quality apparently went downhill considerably.

    I currently have a SawStop fence & find it to be a little better than my old Biesmeyer was. The only minor issue is that the handle, when in the locked position sticks straight out & I occasionally bump into it. I did a mod to have it pointed down when locked.

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    Other than the color, what else makes this a new version? (I haven't used a Biese since I traded my last one for a Unifence almost 2 decades ago)
    ~mike

    reading. it helps.

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    Been happily using a Unifence for almost 30 years. Versatile, durable, and accurate.

    They are still available on the used market.

    -- Andy - Arlington TX

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    I've been using a Bies on an old Unisaw for a good while. It stays straight, and square, but beyond that, it leaves a few things to be desired. It has no fine adjustment, and when you move it, the fence doesn't stay tight to the "track", so it's not exactly where you want it when you stop moving it. You have to do a multi-step clamp, unclamp, tap, and so forth. If it had a fine adjustment, that you could adjust after it was clamped in place, I'd say it would be great.

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    Pretty sure the newer version is less robust than the older ones. Thinner steel basically.

    I have two older ones on my Unisaws.

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    I had a unisaw with a Biesemeyer fence. It was lumpy not flat at all. I had to add a wood face to it.
    Terrible saw terrible fence.
    Aj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Hughes View Post
    I had a unisaw with a Biesemeyer fence. It was lumpy not flat at all. I had to add a wood face to it.
    Terrible saw terrible fence.
    Hadnít heard that one before. Yes, the laminated plywood fence isnít ideal, but I simply add a piece of mdf to it. Can also add extruded aluminum or uhmw.

    The Unisaw on the other hand, what went wrong there?

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    I didnít like the way it thumped when it started.
    The top was not flat esp around the throat plate. The metal part of the fence was not straight so anything attach would take on the shape. I remember trying Mdf and fiddling with shims.
    The final straw for some reason the saw would pickup small cut offs and throw them at me. I guessing it has something to do with the dished top.
    It was a Delta x5 unisaw. I think it was made Taiwan?
    Bad saw
    Aj

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    That does sound like a bad saw. Just wanted to make sure you werenít generalizing that all Uniís are bad saws.

    And in your defense, most Bies fence tubes arenít perfect. If you out a dial indicator agains the tube there will normally be a few - 5ish thou in and out along its length. Shimming can help, but also that is good enough for woodworking really.

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    If I needed a new fence, I'd probably go with the VCST fence.

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    I would buy the Unifence, it provides the safety aspect of being able to end at the saw blade for increased safety during ripping...........Rod.

  14. Will second the Unifence, I have had both fences and the Unifence wins for me hands down. My biggest complaint is trying to make jigs for the fence so I went one step further and added a Uni-T Fence from Peachtree https://www.ptreeusa.com/tablesaw_unifence.html and now have the best of both worlds.

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    I appreciate the feedback. I decided on the SawStop fence as I found it with free shipping on ebay which brought the cost down under $160.

    I know a bunch of people recommended the Unifence and having used one for 15 years I agree it is a great option just not realistic since they aren't made any more. There is one 180 miles from me that the seller wants $250 for which puts it out of my price range and not worth the travel time.

    I do thank everyone for giving me their thoughts.

    Once I get the fence and build out the extension table I'll post some pictures as this project is nearing completion.

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