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Thread: Routing romex through an inaccessible crawl space: need advice

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    I'd try and get conduit between the basement and the island...if you can't just poke it through to where you can get to it at the island side but you can manage to get a fish tape or other such thing from the island to the basement, you can use that to "pull" the conduit through and then run your cable through it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Becker View Post
    I'd try and get conduit between the basement and the island...if you can't just poke it through to where you can get to it at the island side but you can manage to get a fish tape or other such thing from the island to the basement, you can use that to "pull" the conduit through and then run your cable through it.
    I agree with this method If the run is less than 10 feet regular 3/4" emt conduit should work nicely if supported at each end.
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    During a basement remodel, I had to fish romex through about 20 feet of inaccessible area. I used fiberglass wire puller rods like these to get a nylon string through, then I used the string to pull the wire.
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    https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Fibe.../dp/B005LW4CFG

    Harbor Freight has a version that less than $10.

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    TECK 90 could be pulled and left sitting on the dirt as long as it's not exposed to mechanical injury, which it wouldn't be in this case.........Rod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Feeley View Post
    i used to know an AT&T guy that had trained a rat to go to a special red light.
    Now THAT is 'thinking outside the box'.

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    Reminds me of when I used a very small 5 or 6 year old grand daughter to run wire 30' or more through a tiny attic space. At that age, she could climb a rope like a monkey.

    She is now 26 almost 5' tall and weighs in at 78#. I still use her occasionally when I don't fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Potter View Post
    Reminds me of when I used a very small 5 or 6 year old grand daughter to run wire 30' or more through a tiny attic space. At that age, she could climb a rope like a monkey.

    She is now 26 almost 5' tall and weighs in at 78#. I still use her occasionally when I don't fit.

    Does she remember being in that attic? Is she an electrician now.
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    Thanks to all who posted. I think I can do this with the emt conduit. Using Jims suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt Harms View Post
    Now THAT is 'thinking outside the box'.
    Wouldn't that be outside the cage Curt? In my case it would be outside the trap....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Feeley View Post
    i used to know an AT&T guy that had trained a rat to go to a special red light.
    To put up the first bridge across the Niagara river, they had a kite flying contest and gave a prize to the first kid to get a kite across. Tied a rope to the kite string, and then a cable to the rope, etc.

    I think UF would be fine. Do mice eat it?

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    Two other approaches might be easier.

    Change the hungry appliances for some less so.

    Run wire mold from someplace else to feed something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bender View Post
    Two other approaches might be easier.

    Change the hungry appliances for some less so.

    Run wire mold from someplace else to feed something.
    I had that thought but the hungry appliances are central to my daughters cooking.
    Vitamix blender could be a candidate but she really drank the Vitamix coolaide.
    microwave at 1600 watts.
    any sort of electric skillet

    and she has the usual assortment of other electric gizmos.
    kitchenaide mixer
    food processor

    but those top three tend to get used together.

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    Yeah the microwave needs it's own circuit.

    Ok how about adding a UPS (battery backup). The 15 amp circuit can charge it but it can deliver more power for short intervals.

    You'll want one that will deliver about 30 amps but not draw more than 15.

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    Adding the circuit is the best overall choice, despite the fact that its' a pain to do so. Modern code requires a minimum of two 20 amp utility circuits (with GFCI) for kitchens anyway. Theoretically there should be staggered outlets on alternative circuits so two "hungry" appliances can run side by side, but that's not always practical for a retrofit that doesn't involve gutting the space.
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    If you go MC cable I would get it with 2 circuit MC cable.

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