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    Sketch up going subscription only

    https://forums.sketchup.com/t/same-s...-buy/127392/50

    i suspect this is going to be the end of sketch up. Itís going to kill off the community that really drives it as a tool in our hobby and many other hobbies. It would be one thing if they had a lower priced option for the hobby users and actually were developing features. I donít think itís seen any major engine changes since google owned them. Anyone have any other alternatives out there? Also register for a forum account and let them know your thoughts.

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    I wonder what the status of SketchUp Make 2017 will be. I got a thing about software subscriptions - I don't do them. I'm happy to buy it outright, but I'm not gonna pay a subscription for it.

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    Here is a quote from a Sketch Up Team Member about Make 2017 found on the site linked to by Chris above:

    SketchUp Make 2017 doesnít use a license so it wonít be affected by this change. That being said, at some point we do remove old installers and that will be the case with 2017, not even relating to this licensing change. If you have a class that uses it, you may wish to keep a copy of the installer available rather than be surprised if we remove it. (Note that we really only adjust our download availability when updating with a new versionÖ so it shouldnít be a surprise when that page changes.)

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    I've decided to break down and learn one of these computer based design thingies, mostly so I can easily work on furniture designs when I can't be in the shop, and without having to draft them.

    I gave up on SketchUp just this morning. The free web based version is too stripped down for my patience level, the "Shop" version not enough of an improvement to justify its price, and the Pro version costs way more than I am willing to pay. I don't want to use Make, since it is no longer being updated, and at some point it will not be compatible with current operating systems.

    I'm giving SketchList 3D a look at on Youtube now. Hopefully that will pan out. I really want something that will make cut lists and 2D drawings. I have reached the age where I have a habit of subtracting quarter inches when I should be adding them, and the reverse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Fairbanks View Post
    ...I donít think itís seen any major engine changes since google owned them. ...
    There have actually been very few changes since the original development from At Last, before Google bought it. I have a comprehensive book from then and almost everything works the same in the latest version I have. It has the same core features many of the original limitations. As a long-time 3D modeler and animator with 3D Studio Max I'm quite familiar with the normal development process and evolution of such software. Sketchup looks to me like software that was written by some wizards and since then no one in the companies that bought it understood or dared to touch or improve the core. There are some great things about SketchUp (such as the snaps) but in general the architecture is clumsy and inflexible. My opinion, of course.

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    If they managed a Sketchup subscription like Adobe does with Adobe Creative Cloud where the App is a desktop app, is constantly updated and improved and is a reasonable monthly subscription price I'd do it. But as stated above they really haven't improved the product in years and the price for Pro is outrageous. The online versions suck and can't use any of the plugins. Whoever is managing Sketchup is an idiot. It's like they are trying to kill it.

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    This is a bummer! Off to download Make 2017 to keep it on a thumb drive in case my computer dies....

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    Thanks, downloaded the PC and MAC versions

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    They're going the same route as every other software type company seems to be going. I paid (monthly) for quickbooks. It has some minor benefits over the software only version but its not all that appealing to me to pay monthly for such a minor service.

    Same with sketchup, I downloaded their software and being that I'm running a 'corporation' I paid the full price of their software. I'm not doing that plus paying monthly so if the software fails to function at some point I will learn a new software and move on.

    I'm ok with paying on a subscription basis for stuff that is really worth it (continuously added content, for example) but with many of these things the added service aspect of it is really a stretch.
    Bumbling forward into the unknown.

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    I pay monthly for Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop (I'm actually a beta tester) - its totally worth it. They continually make improvements and add new features and give you some cloud storage and an iphone app.

    There is a 0% chance I'm going to pay for something like sketchup that has shown no inclination to improve or iterate on their product. Subscriptions are certainly the future but you have to show the users that they are getting something out of the deal. $20/month is too steep for a hobbiest like me. If you are a pro it might be worth it. In my mind its probably worth $50/year for me IF it was getting better.

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    I've never used Sketchup, so not sure of the features offered. I use full blown Autocad at work, so am comfortable with CAD systems. On my laptop at home I use LibreCad. I has plenty of features to create my shop drawings for projects and it is completely free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Starr View Post
    ... On my laptop at home I use LibreCad. I has plenty of features to create my shop drawings for projects and it is completely free.
    I'll look that up. Is it 2D only or have 3D features? Either way it could be useful since I don't have Autocad OR 3dsmax loaded anymore. (That computer quit booting a couple of years after I retired and I never got around to fixing it or transferring the license to another computer - hardly worth the effort for casual use.)

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    Looks like the Hobbyist version will still be free and it's just the paid versions going subscription but I may have read it wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Jensen View Post
    Looks like the Hobbyist version will still be free and it's just the paid versions going subscription but I may have read it wrong
    it’s the web only version and is extremely limited, slow/clunky and support no plug-ins. For me it’s either the 2017 maker or learn something new. No way am I going to give them that much money for no new features. Like others have said if they were like adobe I would easily do a $10 a month package if they kept the thing updated but they have shown they cannot do that.
    Last edited by Chris Fairbanks; 06-04-2020 at 12:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Starr View Post
    I've never used Sketchup, so not sure of the features offered. I use full blown Autocad at work, so am comfortable with CAD systems. On my laptop at home I use LibreCad. I has plenty of features to create my shop drawings for projects and it is completely free.
    Quote Originally Posted by John K Jordan View Post
    I'll look that up. Is it 2D only or have 3D features? Either way it could be useful since I don't have Autocad OR 3dsmax loaded anymore. (That computer quit booting a couple of years after I retired and I never got around to fixing it or transferring the license to another computer - hardly worth the effort for casual use.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Fairbanks View Post
    itís the web only version and is extremely limited, slow/clunky and support no plug-ins. For me itís either the 2017 maker or learn something new. No way am I going to give them that much money for no new features. Like others have said if they were like adobe I would easily do a $10 a month package if they kept the thing updated but they have shown they cannot do that.
    Chris, is this an answer to my question about the LibreCad program Lisa mentioned? From a quick search it appears be 2D only. I haven't heard of it but I'm interested in user experiences.

    JKJ

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