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    Made in China sentiment

    As a retail small business owner, selling a number of high quality made in China products, I’m curious of any changes in consumer sentiment. Given the current pandemic, will made in China products be more of a deal breaker, or the same? Obviously, if you avoided made in China in the past, you will continue to avoid those products. So assuming product quality hasn’t changed, is Made in China now more of a deal breaker to you?

    PLEASE don’t get political.

    And thank you for your input.

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    If China is the only place something is made, there is no choice.

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    We're going to be buying "made in China" for quite some time because a lot of products can't be found "made in the U.S.A." no matter the price. China can make very high quality goods, they have a space program and are buying or partnering with Aerospace companies. I wonder if the biggest beneficiaries of the anti-China atmosphere will be other Asian countries or better yet (from my viewpoint) Central/South American countries.

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    I feel the idea is of being persuaded in regard to ones buying habits as a result of the whole covid thing and maybe not buying or minimizing buying from China is pretty well third grade.

    I think it would be and or is a bit nieve to say the least to think our government wouldn’t do the same exact thing and hasn’t in some way shape or form of various levels some more minor some just as sever since the founding of this country. Under the current administration it is without question we would do exactly the same if we decided it’s what we wanted to do. This veil or image that Merca is the white horse some great moral compass that the world should follow and adhere to is joke. Is there worse than Merca. Well sure but if worse is the tool with which you use to measure I’d say you have identified the crux of the problem.

    So nope I’ll be buying from China even though I prefer German made. As I don’t think China is the enemy. Personally I think we are are the makers of our own suffering. Most of the time in life we are the maker of our own problems but just try convincing the average man to own his own poop..
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    I know a lot of people who say they will not buy products made in China anymore. They may have no choice for awhile. For us "aged" folks, I remember the same sentiment of "Made in Japan", back in the seventies. Cheap products, made cheaply. but would get the job done. Now everyone is going "ape" over Japanese hand tools. What's changed? China does have some quality products at some manufacturers. Remember that most of our power tools that we are fond of are made over there.
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    Some people will grumble, but as said, there may be no other options. People want cheap.

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    Yes, we carry some very high quality product from China. I’m happy to get the sense so far, that buying sentiment for made in China isn’t going to change much.

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    Quality is in the end the most important and quality can be had from anywhere in the world. No one country has a monopoly on that. We live in a global economy at this point and that's not likely to change because, well...humans...also put a lot of emphasis on price when they make purchasing decisions. Further, the business world runs on short term metrics when it comes to profitability. That's why manufacturing has shifted around and will continue to shift around. It's certainly nice to find something that's produced in whatever country we individually call home and supporting domestic manufacturing is a good thing when we have that option. But we may have to be willing to pay a little more for some of those things just because of the economics behind that production.

    The folks in China are actually pretty astute. They understood that they couldn't "just produce cheap" and have acted accordingly. Cost of living/labor rates have still enabled favorable pricing, but they kicked up quality big-time for much of what they produce for the world markets just as Japan and Taiwan did before them.
    Last edited by Jim Becker; 05-16-2020 at 9:27 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt Harms View Post
    We're going to be buying "made in China" for quite some time because a lot of products can't be found "made in the U.S.A." no matter the price. China can make very high quality goods, they have a space program
    Just for fun: http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2323/1

    And: http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2326/1

    Ooopsy daisy! You gotta know where to stand when that thing goes off.

    They do require some supervision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Dawson View Post
    Just for fun: http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2323/1

    And: http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2326/1

    Ooopsy daisy! You gotta know where to stand when that thing goes off.

    They do require some supervision.
    Do we really want to recount our own learning curve? Including a crew burned to a crisp? Another batch strewn in pieces across our own country on re-entry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Bolton View Post
    Do we really want to recount our own learning curve? Including a crew burned to a crisp? Another batch strewn in pieces across our own country on re-entry?
    We have Range Safety Officers. And when ours blow up, they don’t cut the camera feed, and there’s a public investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Dawson View Post
    We have Range Safety Officers. And when ours blow up, they don’t cut the camera feed, and there’s a public investigation.
    One would think.

    If you dont think we havent covered up miles of poop and cut feeds, redacted, classified, on and on, well...

    We are not clean. No one is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Bolton View Post
    One would think.

    If you dont think we havent covered up miles of poop and cut feeds, redacted, classified, on and on, well...

    We are not clean. No one is.
    That is true. For a counterpoint, pick up a copy of Kate Brown's book "Plutopia", largely the story of the Hanford nuclear site and the poisoning of the Columbia River. But that was wartime, and moreover we didn't have anybody to steal the technology from (which was largely classified anyway.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Dawson View Post
    But that was wartime
    Wartime or not. It is what it is. We have more than our fair share of dirty in our past wartime or not. We can nationalize it all we want. We stole technology from plenty, WWII in itself is a testament.

    Im not trashing the good ol'...

    My point is its an easy position to come from on high and its a really nasty position when we have learned from our labor issues, environmental issues, and we now know beyond doubt that we live and operate in a global environment (the pale blue dot) and we have companies willing for the sake of profit to not only destroy another populatio (or could be argued guide them in the pursuit of destroying themselves) for greed when we know the crap we tell them to flush down their river is going to land in our food supply or float across the jetstream and land on our soil. We have pretty much the richest corporation on the planet supporting prison factories that enact "the company store" that we learned from directly that basically enslaves its workforce with a charge/pay arrangement that is consciously setup to where they pretty much can never get out of the situation. We learned that that doesnt work first hand but it made a bunch of people very rich.

    They can of course choose on their own to flush their rivers and workforce down the river.. but we have the pretty much an across the board mindset here that is coaching them and avocating they make the same mistakes we learned from. Its nonsensical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Bolton View Post
    Wartime or not. It is what it is. We have more than our fair share of dirty in our past wartime or not. We can nationalize it all we want. We stole technology from plenty, WWII in itself is a testament.
    Just out of curiosity, what are you referring to?

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