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    Record plow plane age?

    On the Record 043 planes I see some have flat thumb screws and some are round knurled knobs. Witch one is older?
    Side note any one have one they are looking to git rid of.

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    I found that an indication of age is the level of detail. As manufacturers look to cut costs they eliminate details. Knurling disappears, flat head screws replace thumb screws, fit/finish varies, etc etc etc.

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    Record Plough Plane No. 043


    The No. 043 plough plane was originally a plane with a single arm fence when it first appeared in early 1935. It was soon modified to a double arm bridged fence and a wider flared palm rest. It may have been modified to permit the introduction of the No. 040 plough in November 1935 at a lower price. The flat depth stop and fence arm thumb screws were changed to a round screw with a knurled edge around the late 1950's. Metric cutters were stated as an optional extra in widths of 4, 6, 9 and 12mm from 1935. It seems strange that the plough, designed for the light duty use of cutting up to " wide grooves should have the option of metric cutters up to 12mm wide offered. At that time no other manufacturer produced a plough of this design, so this could be Record's own design. It was listed as being "Rustless plated".


    The No. 043 was first listed in a small undated publicity catalogue issued between the January 1934 price list and the November 1935, No. 14 Catalogue. Last listed mid 1970's.


    http://www.recordhandplanes.com/production-periods.html

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    If you cannot find a Record #043, look for a Rapier #043. They are very similar, if not identical.



    If you find one or the other minus blades, just get it. The Veritas Small Plow blades work perfectly in it; in fact, I only use the Veritas blades in mine.

    Regards from Perth

    Derek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie Simpson View Post
    Record Plough Plane No. 043


    The No. 043 plough plane was originally a plane with a single arm fence when it first appeared in early 1935. It was soon modified to a double arm bridged fence and a wider flared palm rest. It may have been modified to permit the introduction of the No. 040 plough in November 1935 at a lower price. The flat depth stop and fence arm thumb screws were changed to a round screw with a knurled edge around the late 1950's. Metric cutters were stated as an optional extra in widths of 4, 6, 9 and 12mm from 1935. It seems strange that the plough, designed for the light duty use of cutting up to " wide grooves should have the option of metric cutters up to 12mm wide offered. At that time no other manufacturer produced a plough of this design, so this could be Record's own design. It was listed as being "Rustless plated".


    The No. 043 was first listed in a small undated publicity catalogue issued between the January 1934 price list and the November 1935, No. 14 Catalogue. Last listed mid 1970's.


    http://www.recordhandplanes.com/production-periods.html
    Thank you I did look at that page befor but missed that one line.

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