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I was the one who pulled the MSDS ages ago. Yes, indeed, there is dramatically more ethanol in the Green Cleanstrip denatured alcohol compared to the normal one.Originally Posted by David Bassett
>80-100% ethanol in Green Cleanstrip, with 3-7% methanol, 1-5% acetic acid, and a tiny bit of heptane and methyl isobutyl ketone
30-60% ethanol and 30-60% methanol in regular Kleen-strip denatured alcohol (love how they give ranges), and a tiny bit of heptane and methyl isobutyl ketone.
- After I ask a stranger if I can pet their dog and they say yes, I like to respond, "I'll keep that in mind" and walk off
- It's above my pay grade. Mongo only pawn in game of life.
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Product has been rebranded as Mohawk shellac reducer, Mohawk has been the parent company of Behlen, I guess they recently rebranded all the Behlen products
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Run it through the still again!
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Anyone have a good source of 100% Ethanol or 99% Isopropyl alcohol that will ship to Florida?
- After I ask a stranger if I can pet their dog and they say yes, I like to respond, "I'll keep that in mind" and walk off
- It's above my pay grade. Mongo only pawn in game of life.
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Alan,
Do you have a Safeway grocery store near you? If so, check their in-store pharmacy area for 16oz 99% Isopropyl alcohol. At my local store it was available for $2.59. It looks like the photo below:
BTW, both Walgreen's and CVS sell a 91% version of the same thing for an even lower price. I have never tried it because I've always been able to get DA or 99% IPA. I have wondered if the additional water content in the 91% would be a noticeable problem. I wonder what the water content is in Sealcoat. I know there is some because I've had the bottom of the can rust on me.
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My Safeway is out and has been out ever since all this started.
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well that is some good thinking there!Run it through the still again!
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Well this is a long shot, at least until the crisis ends, but here goes - If you can find a printing supply place in your area that is not temporarily shut down, chances are they will stock 99% IPA. Printers use it to clean rollers. In my area, there are a couple of paper distributors that carry it alongside the paper they sell to printers. Alternatively, you could call around to a few print shops, and they might sell you a gallon from their own stock.
Another option is to check with some electronics supply places. The kinds of places that people obtain parts for homebrew computing and stuff like that. IPA is extensively used in electronics.
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If ya'll lived closer, I would loan you a can.
I shipped hand sanitizer to my Sister, who is exposed to Corona patients all day long (she is shoving tubes down their throat when they can no longer breath on their own). Cost more than the hand sanitizer to ship it, and it was a pretty big bottle. I purchased a bunch before things went nuts because I wanted to put some in my classroom and also for daughters dance studio; and then everything closed down and I was sitting here with a bunch of hand sanitizer..... So I started giving it away
How much do you need for your project? I have 8 quarts of Isopropyl and 4 gallons of Alcohol fuel for stoves (Denatured from Home Depot). I use enough of it that i keep it on hand.
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Thank you for pointing this out, wasn't aware of it. And it looks like Rockler and Woodcraft both stock it in 32oz for $12.95, so that might be the best bet for OP until Coronavirus is no longer disrupting the availability of IPA. It looks like the Mohawk product is mostly Ethanol. I do not see an indication that it will not ship to CA either.
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I live in southern California and can normally purchase denatured alcohol at Home Depot in gallon cans. Certainly is not restricted for sale in CA.
Of course, they don't have any right now.
Mike
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Denatured alcohol (Green Kleen-strip) was readily available about a month ago. Minimal methanol (3-7%), but still some. I would think using it sporatically as hand sanitizer wouldn't even remotely come close to a toxic dose, but I'm certainly no toxicologist, and am not recommending this. Of course, drinking heavily to induce competitive inhibition of the alcohol dehydrogenase on the methanol is one approach, but I digress...
Anything like hydrogen peroxide, isopropyl alcohol, or EverClear has been impossible to get in Florida for quite some time.
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- After I ask a stranger if I can pet their dog and they say yes, I like to respond, "I'll keep that in mind" and walk off
- It's above my pay grade. Mongo only pawn in game of life.
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I stopped buying the big box DA because it just would not disolve the flakes. Just had to use it up for thinning shellac
and cleaning stuff. Some of the can tops were always loose in the store. Some of the cans have "thins shellac " printed on
the cans and nothing about dissolving .
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I sure hope people are not using DNA for hand sanitizer!!!
Rustic? Well, no. That was not my intention!
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I responded to Jim's post above yours before seeing yours. I would absolutely discourage using commercial grade DNA as a skin sanitizer. It is likely that people could use it multiple times a day and the skin absorption would be significant. If it contains methanol, the nervous system health hazard could be irreversible. I am less familiar with the toxic effects of other denaturing agents but would certainly obtain the SDS before using it daily for any purpose including woodworking applications with minimal skin contact.Denatured alcohol (Green Kleen-strip) was readily available about a month ago. Minimal methanol (3-7%), but still some. I would think using it sporatically as hand sanitizer wouldn't even remotely come close to a toxic dose, but I'm certainly no toxicologist, and am not recommending this. Of course, drinking heavily to induce competitive inhibition of the alcohol dehydrogenase on the methanol is one approach, but I digress...
Anything like hydrogen peroxide, isopropyl alcohol, or EverClear has been impossible to get in Florida for quite some time.
BTW, I spent my career as an occupational health scientist with over 20 years at NIOSH.
Rustic? Well, no. That was not my intention!
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