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    Questions about sliding table attachment

    The only two I've found are Sawstop and Grizzly.

    Couple questions for those who have one:

    Has anyone installed the SS on a different brand of table saw?

    One of my concerns is the part that extends past the front of the saw will get in the way. Has anyone experienced this?

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    Think carefully about what your use is going to be. These are basically big, miter-gauges/fences that happen to be permanently attached to the saw. They can be useful for panel processing and a number of tasks when setup accurately. But as you indicate, they take up space and mount pretty far from the cut line due to the nature of a cabinet saw and if you are not using them constantly, you may or may not find them cumbersome. Unlike the outrigger on a true-slider which often can be popped on and off fast and easy (outside of the weight), these add-on system are a bit more involved to remove if that's allowed at all, to gain space when not in use.
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    Yes, think carefully. I have a saw stop PCS and often think about getting their sliding table attachment. I also have the fold-out rear extension and the giant overarm dust collector guard - both of which I'm happy with.

    Take a look at the installation manual for the saw stop sliding table extension.

    On the PCS, you can mount it so it sticks out towards the back, or sticks out towards the front - depending on how you want to use the saw and where it is located in the shop. In either of these configurations the extension table is mounted to the leftward edge of the left cast iron extension wing. You get different amounts of extension depending on how it's mounted. Now...the manual also describes mounting it a lot closer to the blade by *removing* the left-side cast iron extension wing from the saw. You also will need to cut down the the guide rails for the fence. Personally I would have no issue with this, since I never put the fence to the left of the saw blade anyways. Mounting the extension in this fashion would put it a heck of a lot closer to the blade, although maybe not as close as a dedicate Euro slider, but probably close enough I think.

    In the meantime, I have the Incra 5000HD miter sled which lets me do accurate cross cuts in pieces up to about 24" wide - and it works quite well. I suppose if I were doing lots of cross cuts in big pieces of plywood could make a shop-made cross cutting sled 3 or 4 feet wide - that would do the trick!

    I use a track saw for ripping.

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    I haven't read anything from owners of the SawStop slider that makes me think it would be worth having. And it's so expensive that by the time you pay for a SawStop & the slider attachment, one might as well get a real slider.

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    Perhaps worth a mention here that SawStop has introduced a new full size sliding table option in addition to the sliding crosscut option. Takes up a lot of room though.

    Most of the gripes with the sliding crosscut option seemed to be about the lack of positive stops on the miter head, which Sawstop fixed a while ago. That and the distance from the table to the blade, which can be reduced as described above.
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    I have no experience with a Sawstop or sawstop sliding tables. I did however own an Excalibur sliding table at one time, which I had on a Delta unisaw. It would be like the larger version of Sawstop sliding tables. I had mine installed without the left side extension wing,even at this spacing it is still quite far from the blade. This was an eye opener to me of the usefulness of a sliding saw. I sold it and moved on to a true sliding saw,with the carriage right beside the blade. These saws are even better. I would say if you plan on using the slider for cross cutting smaller pieces the small version will be useful. However if plywood pieces bigger than say 2' square are in the cards the bigger capacity of the large version might be better. They do have a large footprint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Engel View Post
    The only two I've found are Sawstop and Grizzly.

    Couple questions for those who have one:

    Has anyone installed the SS on a different brand of table saw?

    One of my concerns is the part that extends past the front of the saw will get in the way. Has anyone experienced this?
    Hi Robert,
    I mounted mine so it is basically flush with the front of the table saw, and it extends further towards the rear of the saw. My sliding attachment is mounted directly to the left side of the table (left wing removed).

    Grizzly Sliding Attachment 3.jpg Grizzly Sliding Attachment 1.jpg Grizzly Sliding Attachment 2.jpg

    The red miter fence is easily removable when not in use. Then lock the slider and use as a conventional table saw for ripping, etc. I have the Incra Miter 5000 sled (with F&F jig) which works great attached to the slider.

    Grizzly 1023rlwx.jpg

    I also have a small dedicated rip sled fixture that attaches to the slider for straight rips or taper cuts on shorter work pieces.
    David

    Ripping with Sliding Attachment 1.jpgRipping Fixture bottom view.jpg

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    I considered adding one to a Delta Unisaw that I once owned, but the dealer talked me out of it. He pointed out the issues with getting it square to the blade and not holding its settings. Plus the add-ons do not get the blade close enough to the blade to be truly effective.
    Solved my problems with sliding capacity with the purchase of a true slider, with the sliding wagon and fence right next to the blade. The 2 options you stated are budget-friendly ( with the exception of the Sawstop model which is about a grand).
    Next best option if you are going to stick with a cabinet saw is a good quality miter sled, either the Incra set up or a hand made version. Versatile and you can make more than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Wilkins View Post
    I considered adding one to a Delta Unisaw that I once owned, but the dealer talked me out of it. He pointed out the issues with getting it square to the blade and not holding its settings.

    The Grizzly sliding attachment I installed was pretty simple to level and square to the blade. I've not had any issues of "not holding its settings".

    Plus the add-ons do not get the blade close enough to the blade to be truly effective.

    Both my Incra miter 5000 and rip sled put the edge of the sled/fixture directly next to the blade. Both of these are attached to the slider, but ride right next to the blade.

    Solved my problems with sliding capacity with the purchase of a true slider, with the sliding wagon and fence right next to the blade. The 2 options you stated are budget-friendly ( with the exception of the Sawstop model which is about a grand).

    The Grizzly sliding attachment is $750. The Sawstop equivalent unit is $1199 (looks like an almost exact copy of the Grizzly).

    Next best option if you are going to stick with a cabinet saw is a good quality miter sled, either the Incra set up or a hand made version. Versatile and you can make more than one.

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    I have the Delta version on an old Delta Unisaw. The part that sticks out does sometimes get in the way but you get used to working around it. I have found it easy to set up and it is always square to the blade. I don't use it much but do find it very handy when I do use it. I should add that it came with the saw and I didn't have to shell out big bucks for it.

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