Social distancing -- The words and the actions

[Mark Bolton]

I am not mentioning my preferred spots, but the midwest does offer some wonderful sparsely populated areas for stupid cheap prices. Apparently no one likes 6 months of winter.

That was a major factor in my decision. Two massive snow storms back to back, and the overhead of the northeast, poof. Move on.

[Mark Bolton]

Hmm, No I have not read the books

If they are no at your library (doors probably chain locked) PM me your address and I will amazon them to you lol.

So what happened to your friend?

The recluse? If thats the question, he wound up getting sued out of his vintage sawmill business due to a trespasser injury and last I heard went Xpat.

[Patrick Walsh]

I see WV over to the right.

One of the bike races I used to do was through the Shenandoah Valley. I found some pretty remote way off the grid places on the back of bicycle there.

You had best be setup to survive finically though or have a very unique plan as so many of those places are so economically deprived it’s startling probably to many that have never seen it.

But you know of you really want to live this way $$ is not really part of the plan or the slightest motivation as it can’t be or the whole thing crumbles before you even start. The only way I see it working is for it to be one of these very remote far off economically deprived places. Sell here, go there, scale way back and fade off into bliss like Pink Floyd’s “Coming back to life” as I’m currently listening to.

Gotta be fully committed to suffering the consequences of the decision as I’m sure many things about it will be ruff.

Not to bring politics into it but my greatest challenge will be being so crazy literally borderline socialist. There are some things I just have not been able to learn to deal with and you can guess what it or they are without me saying it out loud.

But if you plan to isolate then I’m selling myself on it shouldn’t really come into play. But I suspect it will..

That was a major factor in my decision. Two massive snow storms back to back, and the overhead of the northeast, poof. Move on.

[Mark Bolton]

I found some pretty remote way off the grid places on the back of bicycle there

There are many around the U.S. but the spreadsheet of it all factors in.

as so many of those places are so economically deprived

Most are not as deprived as you'd think but a lot of drop-outs dont factor in the cost of driving an hour or more to anything and think they will just work it out. But when the poop hits the fan, its a major expense for a screw, nut, bolt, gasket, or replacement part. Its a very romantic notion but it has its conundrums.

but you know of you really want to live this way $$ is not really part of the plan

This is a fatalistic, and detrimental flaw, to anyones notion of a bug-out. $$ will always be essential to "the plan"... if you think thats not true, or you can avoid that fact, your doomed to failure.

Sell here, go there, scale way back

Oh lord, scaling back will be essential. Thats at the root of the movement. The real chink in your armor is the "sell". If you dont have the ability to reach far outside your hermitage in some way shape or form, your sunk.

Gotta be fully committed to suffering the consequences of the decision as I’m sure many things about it will be ruff.

What most people dont realize IMHO is that the vast majority of your time will be spent keeping your existence possible. This will mean working at your place, growing, and preserving all the food you can when you can, endless maintenance, and so on. This will cut into your profitability time immensely. Now if you can conjur up some business model where your making $60K conference tables that get tractor and trailered and craned into an NYC or LA high rise, well screw it, drive to the grocery store. But the work you do on a daily basis, and your tooling restoration, will never be supported remotely unless you land there with a boat load of lottery winnings, or a golden parachute retirement pension package.

If you have to keep the property up.. maintain a remote, long, road/driveway, mud, home, garden, kill and process animals (know your vegan), and so on.. your time to make, market, and sell, work is extremely infringed upon. Not impossible.. a lot more fun with someone on the property your interested in bumping uglies with, but not impossible.

Its a very hard life. Again.. sounds romantic. No reason you cant give it a test run for year or two. Unfortunately that test run would probably happen when your in a mental tail spin after your mother goes by the by... not a good place to be when your trying to gauge the viability of a new endeavor.

[Patrick Walsh]

That last part has me rolling on my shop floor as it’s totally true. Nah I’m about five years she will go with me to someplace In the middle. Somewhere o can get her to a hospital with good care. But also someplace I can have enough space between me and the rest of the world to not begrudge them and it. There has to be a middle ground. Mom and I are only 19 years apart but when she dies if I am still able bodied myself yeah I drag myself way off the grid and say bye bye. Till then it’s fantasy.

I understand what your saying about hard work in all this though. It’s clearly a rear end load of hard physical work. The good news is there pretty much is nothing I love more than hard work. Really and hard work. The kind that’s makes you say man that sucked! Now I don’t want to do that kind of hard work to open anyone’s pocket hence being a cabinet maker but if to keep myself alive I have a feeling I’d really get off on it.

I have forever and always vociferously made my opinion be know that “I think the masses got it all wrong” and I’d much rather fight it out nature to survive. That we really screwed the pooche making this whole thing about stuff more stuff money and more stuff. As you suggest, caring for the property, taking care of the garden succumbing to maybe eating animals “yuk and I’ll wanna skit my wrists out of guilt on that one”. I get It it’s hard work but so isn’t maintaining life in a metropolis. It’s just a very different kind of hard and one that leaves me pretty lacking in fulfillment and at times emotionally exhausted.

You are right though. I could go do that and find it’s totally not for me. Then what man, that will be something lol won’t it

[Mark Bolton]

we really screwed the pooche making this whole thing about stuff more stuff money and more stuff

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[Keith Outten]

This thread is titled "Social distancing -- The words and the actions"
The topic is about the definition and use of the particular term and the topic has evolved into personal life choices.